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TMNT Crossover Episode, Rogue One Trailer, and IDW’s Expanded Universe

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About this Episode

Steve and Mike discuss the TMNT animated series crossover bringing together the 1987 turtles and current continuity, including how Krang's appearance makes it canonically connected and callbacks to the original series. They break down the newly released Star Wars Rogue One trailer, exploring its tone, visual design, character appearances like Mon Mothma and Darth Vader, and potential for future Star Wars spinoff films. The episode also covers IDW's announcement of a second TMNT ongoing series launching in August, focusing on supporting characters like Casey, April, and Baxter Stockman.

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geek unlimited. I'm your host as usual Steve

Megatron Phillips and joining me for this segment

is if you and Mike And your lord and savior Mike

the Birdman dog. I'm back the crying of the show.

Oh It's all right. I'm here to save you all it's

okay. I accept cash check money order or PayPal

And direct it to Steve at key cast right yes,

that's right also I can think of when you said

Uh, check, all I can think of is a Bugs Bunny

and a Looney Beginning. Boy, I don't accept checks.

Unless they bounce? Yeah. Unless they're fair

play. So I guess we should talk about the first

thing since you brought up the crying in the

room. And... Sackles! It's kind of sad that he's

not there anymore. I mean I get that they Couldn't

and didn't I'm glad they didn't find a replacement

for James Avery But it's just sad not being able

to see 87 shredder anymore. I Was glad that they

didn't show it was a tasteful throwback to not

have him and just have the crank Yeah, action

and I love sense to have them. I mean all things

considered Yeah, yeah, and I loved the connection

that Krang from TMNT87 is actually a part of

this universe. Yeah, I found that really cool.

That's technically canonical now, which means

Turtles Forever technically is canonical. Yeah.

They just didn't have this universe to jump to

at that time. Yeah. Because I thought it was

funny that Krang from 87 and SubprimeKrang Gilbert

yeah are related hilarious. They're like cousin.

Yeah, I and then in the the meeting of the two

groups of turtles was just spectacular on both

in both dimensions in the 2d world and the 3d

world And they were breaking the fourth wall.

Yeah, pretty much that they were ferrasing it

all over the place I think the coolest homage

to the opening 87 intro Was Raph actually using,

like, 3D87 Raph actually using a pizza like he

does in the original intro? Yeah, I thought that

was actually kind of clever, too. I thought that

was hilarious. One of the things I really liked

about this episode, especially in the opening

five minutes, is all of the music cues were so

close to the original 87 series, yet they were

updated as well. Like, that's a nice little touch,

too. Like, that's a nice throwback to the Fred

Wolf stuff. And having everybody back. I mean,

for a second I was wondering, I wasn't sure whether

that was Cam Clarke as Leonardo. I'm like, oh

yeah, it is. It is, yeah. I can't remember the

name of the guy that plays Donatello. It's Barry

Gordon. Yeah. So it was nice to see everybody

again. That was so cool. And then even this,

then even, then. even seeing how they translated

stuff from the 2d to the 3d and 3d to 2d so clever

even the updated crank design from 87 in the

into this universe i thought was kind of nice

i would absolutely love if they did for the san

diego comic -con exclusive this year from from

playmates if they took that crank Took that design

and that was the exclusive figure for this year

and just retool the out -of -the -shadows figures

That'd be kind of cool. I I would love to have

that crane body again. I like a Canonical, you

know version that's show accurate I I wish they

never cancelled the Classic Line, although yet

this year the Walmart exclusives are going to

be the TMNT Secret of the Ooze figures. Which

is okay. Which, at this point, if you're gonna

do that, make the Krang and Shredder exclusive

to Toys R Us or Walgreens or something. I mean,

get your money. People will pay it. Or make an

exclusive to Sandy Oak Comic Con. You mean Walmart,

right? Not Walgreens. Because if they were at

Walgreens, they would be astronomically priced.

Well... No, they wouldn't even have them there.

Well... Well, even if they did Walgreens, because

I know for like Marvel Legends, they had Agent

Venom there a couple years ago, and it was a

bitch to find. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I'm just,

I was so impressed with it, and that's the first

episode of the new season I've seen this year.

Oh, really? Yeah, because I typically wait until

the end of the season to watch everything in

just one go. Now, is that David Tennant as the

Fugitoid still? Yes. That's so fucking cool.

I'm so glad to see him doing more like kind of

voice work and I really hope that he continues

on with the show, which I guess what the hell

is going to happen going into season four? I

mean, how far are we? This is season four. We're

11 or 12 episodes into season four at this point.

How many episodes is it per season again? I think

it's going to be 26 like all the others, but

I could be wrong. I would have to actually look

it up. Well, hopefully they'll make it back to

Earth and all that stuff. I don't assume that

they will because that's generally okay. So if

you look at all the different, you look at the

two different series, look at A7 in 2003, they

essentially do the same thing. in every series

at that point. There's like a gimmick or something.

Yeah. Well, you know, you take the 2003 series.

Steve and I did a Tooncast Beyond on season one

of 2003. I know for a fact, 2003 does a fast

forward time jump. I know they go into space

in 2003. I know they then go back to the sewers.

So it's this whole linear thing. Yeah. I mean,

it's just, yeah, it's... It's this whole linear

thing that almost every incarnation, whether

Nickelodeon owns the thing or not, that Turtles

goes through, they have a bunch of stuff with

Krang and Shredder or whatever, and then they

eventually, you know, they bring in the Utroms

and the Treseratons and all that, and that's

kind of what they're doing now with this season.

So they go into space and then, who knows, maybe

season five, if it gets to season five or season

six, they might time travel, you know, I don't

know. Turtles of Time would be kind of cool.

Yeah. I'd be okay with that. I mean, I'm not

a huge fan of the designs of a lot of the Dimension

X stuff. Like, I reviewed the toys a while ago,

and the armor on them is just kind of a pain

in the ass. But if they did a Turtles in Time,

though, that opens up so many more possibilities.

Plus, if they wanted to do kind of a cheeky thing,

since they have David Tennant doing a voice now

as the Fujitoid, If they could somehow get Matt

Smith to do a voice even for like an episode,

I think that'd be pretty kick -ass. Or having

them watching an episode of Doctor Who. Or just

something like that. Or even get like Peter Capaldi

for just like a couple of lines or something

like that. That'd be fantastic. But yeah, I mean

overall, I was really impressed with this. I'm

just wondering how much more, like what other

gimmicks could this show pull? I'm sure they've

got a bunch of stuff in line and everything else.

Like I said, this Triceraton story is probably

going to be the crux of season four as far as

the remainder of it. Like I said, they could

do a time jump. I know in the 2003 series they

did this thing, the Ninja Tribunal, where it's

kind of like... Think of Warworld from Justice

League, where you've got Mongol and you've got

all these people fighting each other kind of

thing. So they could do that. There's a ton of

stuff that they could do. You know what would

be kind of neat? Because I know in the comics

years upon years ago, they crossed over with

the Seers. I want to say the guy's name was Eric

Larson. They crossed over with Savage Dragon.

You mean Jim Larson? No, I think it was Eric

Larson. I'm 99 % sure of that. I had a character

named Savage Dragon. Now, if they could bring

over him or Usagi Ujimbo, I don't know whether

they've ever done that before on this show. I

know for a fact they have, because I've seen

the first three seasons. At this point, I'm kind

of just waiting to kind of find time to marathon

through season four, but I've seen the first

three seasons, and they have not used Usagi yet,

because I know the guy that created him is using

him in his own comic stuff. Usagi hasn't even

been in the ongoing series from IDW yet, so I

don't know if he ever will be either. I think

that it'd be kind of cool if they somehow found

a way to cross over that because now that having

series jump over to each other is not an unusual

thing. Because now that we've had the Flash and

Supergirl, it kind of opens the door to have

this thing happen again. You've had Constantine

on Arrow. So you never know the possibilities

there. But I guess with animation, it gets a

little tricky because you're transferring mediums.

And that's a whole new... Legalese bullshit thing

so well, I mean you saw he was in the original

series But it's just any and he was an original

toy from 87 But it's just that the the guy who

actually create like Nickelodeon does not have

a right to that character Like you would have

to have it. You know it's it's like you know

It's like WWE going to Stephen Amell or vice

versa for him to have a magic and start us which

is anyway And anything else you wanted to say

about the cartoon Steve Well, I was gonna say

that um, one of the things I really enjoyed was

having crying. Yeah In the episode and getting

to seem translated despite the fact that I really

wasn't too keen on The new design Like in his

CG version because he just looked too I don't

know Yeah It didn't look right. That was more

so my thing. I mean, I was glad he was there

and I'm glad he had such a high amount of screen

time. Because to me, that was just icing on the

cake. I love the character. That was like my

favorite character as a kid. So getting to see

him in the episode, I was... Starting to fan

out with it. So fanboy out and I love the fact

that When they make the connection with subprime

and they're talking and he's like good job blah

blah blah and They're like he's trying to destroy

the dimensions. He's like you what? He's like

that he says that it's a kind of bumbling idiocy

that we banned you for last time banished you

for last time and then sends him through the

hole and then he's like, no, not back there.

And then, you know, he just he's gone. And then

then they banished subprime to the the Mirage,

the comic universe. Yeah. Yeah. The comic universe

where they're just dark. And I just I thought

that was hilarious. I also liked how those turtles

didn't talk. It was all like textual. Yeah. It

would have been kind of neat had they taught

they had like speech bottles or if they brought

back Sean Schemmel to come back and do the kind

of voices for that, that would have been kind

of neat. I think my favorite part with the Turtles

was Rob Paulson talking to himself. He sounded

weird. No, it didn't sound weird at all because...

No, he was arguing with himself. because rob

is rafael rafael was always the you know kind

of a snarky kind of guy and and donnie in the

2012 series does have a little bit of snark but

not as much as 87 raf and it's just it's just

fun for me watching rob play off of himself and

he's like oh you you sound funny he's like yeah

well what's with the big the buck teeth yeah

and then later he says what's What is it with

you guys ha... It was Sean Astin saying this.

He said, what is it with you guys having letters

on your belts? What's that about? He's like,

isn't that cute? Yeah. Since we are still talking

turtles, there is just a little bit of news I

want to bring up. And I know Steve's probably

gonna kill me for this, but it'll be pretty short

here. So IDW has the current ongoing which has

been going for about four or five years now since

about 2011 or so. And that's just they just released

issue 56. They've also had micro series focusing

on one or two characters but it's all connected

into the overall arc of the ongoing and it's

not just separate one -shot stories. They've

had TMNT Ghostbusters, they've had Turtles in

Time, they've had... You know, all that stuff.

They are now just announced this weekend at Emerald

City Comic Con. They're going to have a second

full ongoing TMNT universe, which is basically

going to focus on the other characters in the

comic universe. So it's going to have stories

featuring Casey, featuring Nobody, featuring

probably Leatherhead, stuff like that. It's gonna

be pretty awesome. It's gonna launch this August.

It'll be written by Paul Allor and drawn by Damian

Cosero, I think I'm saying that right, with writers

Tom Waltz, Kevin Eastman, and artist Bill Senkowitz

doing backup stories. It will reportedly focus

on various characters such as Casey, April, Fugitoid,

Old Hob, Nobody, Harold, and Baxter Stockman.

You know it it's grown the IDW TMNT world has

grown too large to contain into one monthly title

There are so many fan favorite characters from

that series now, and I can't say Enough good

things about the idea if you guys have not read

the IDW series start from the beginning and just

Keep reading because it's a love letter to the

TMNT universe. It really is Now one last thing

I want to bring up about the about the cartoon

the the last thing that happened which was Tiger

Claw going to coming out of the worm Yeah, well

the worm and Tiger Claw were in the 87 universe

instead of The current right which they're supposed

to be in which was kind of interesting. They're

like oh, no That worm thing had happened previously.

They did a cameo with the 87 Turtles, I think

it was in season two or three, where the worm

had hopped dimensions and showed up in the 87

universe. And they're like, what is that? And

then it cuts to the fade to black and white,

and the episode ended. So what I'm wondering

now after this episode happened was where, you

know, the worm shows up like, oh, OK, so they're

calling back to what they kind of teased before.

But then, oh, wait, no, they're adding something

because, boom, here comes Tiger Khan. I'm like,

wait, what? Huh? Which means they're leaving

the door open in case they want to do it again.

Yeah. Which I'm totally fine with. As long as

it doesn't become stupid gimmicky, I'm totally

fine with it. I don't think it will because it.

Look how long it took them to even do a full

on 87 episode. It took them four seasons. Well,

I can see why maybe because with like out of

the shadows coming out in just over a month and

a half, I can see maybe that's why they're trying

to tie it in to get the turtles hype going. So

timing is coincidental, but still, I mean, I

guess if they do another big event, they'll probably

tie it to a monument in the turtles. anniversary,

be it like the 30th anniversary or 35th for a

new movie or something. Yeah, next year is the

30th anniversary of the cartoon. They'll do something

for that, guaranteed. Oh, absolutely, yep. Speaking

of turtle stuff, one last thing I want to mention.

Randomly today, a good friend over at Playmates

sent me Ninja Turtle Nerf guns. They're about

the weirdest thing I've ever played. They're

called T -Blasters. and they stay like the turtle

heads, but they shoot darts. They're really weird

too, because they're not unlike Nerf guns, except

when you pull back the hammer, they don't cock,

which is so weird. They just, I guess they're

loaded to like a spring or something. these things

are powerful seriously because they don't conk

the spring isn't like if that not all the energy

is already stored up with this because it's such

a rapid fire release it's got some real power

behind it plus the darts are a lot bigger than

nerf guns too which is actually kind of neat

actually the one i like the most they sent me

leonardo and donatello Don't tell us like this

weird Mass Effect style double barrel pistol.

It's almost like the Marshal 16 shotgun pistol

from Call of Duty Black Ops. It's remarkably

neat. I'm actually kind of, I'm kind of liking

these things. So if you want to do something

for like cubicle war, for like cubicle warfare,

or if you want something to screw around with

like your kids. Yeah. Take a, take a picture

of these and put them on Facebook. I can show

a couple of, I'm sorry to sidetrack Steve, since

he's talking about this already. A couple of

local radio station morning show hosts here in

Louisville, the entire studio downtown here,

they all have a giant Nerf war and they all get

various guns and everything else. It'd be awesome

to show it to them. So take a picture of those

guns and post it on Facebook and I'll share it

with them. I absolutely will. So, moving on,

we have Star Wars Rogue One trailer which dropped

today. Now, I want to start this off, Steve.

I want your opinion. Does this look cool to you?

Yes, because I remember when you said like like

a year ago this sounds so stupid This was the

yes, and I'm not denying it Because like what

was it myself and quite a few other people actually

were were complaining about it, and I saw something

from Dan Movie Revolve mm -hmm Earlier in the

day he says my thoughts on rogue one before the

trailer spinoff Star Wars movies are going to

over flood the market after the trailer one,

please It looks Amazing like it looks like the

expanding universe novels come to life or this

is like rebels if it was real Yeah, and one of

the nice parts is you've got some callbacks.

You're gonna have You know, Mon Mothra, you're

gonna have, you know, Grand Moff Tarkin, you're

gonna have... That's actually not Tarkin in there,

surprisingly. No, it's not Tarkin, but he's gonna

be in it. Oh yeah, for sure. And they're gonna

have Vader, they're gonna have the bounty hunters,

so you'll probably see Guido for once. Guido,

what's a racist herb? Whatever. One of the things

I didn't notice is they had the original Rebel

Trooper design. Mm -hmm like when they're going

in they also have the original stormtrooper design

They did actually if you look in there was actually

one part where you see the stormtroopers They're

going down the street and you see them in like

some kind of hover tank If you look closely those

stormtrooper helmets are different Which means

they're technically seeing generational cross

from clone troopers to stormtroopers and But

they're close enough to the stormtrooper It's

hard to differentiate them, though. Well, if

you look at the helmets, because I'm like a big

armorer guy, like I'm not a member of the 501st,

but I know enough to look at the armor and be

able to tell you things, I've got a little bit

of nerd chub, I'm just saying, just seeing all

the different designs. And I don't know whether

those are Shadow Troopers or Death Troopers,

the guys that are in the kind of black armor.

The black or the death troopers. That's incredible

to see those fully realized and not just a cosplay

like comic -con Like it's amazing the level of

detail they went into that even when you look

Calling back to the rebel hanger That shot where

she's walking in You can revert you can turn

that shot. I want to say like 90 degrees the

other way And if you do that, that's the same

shot from episode 4 when Luke and Han walk into

that bay. That X -wing is right where it should

be. That gong droid is right where it should

be. That's a level of detail I did not expect.

I think they're trying to make sure that they

hit all the right notes. Oh, absolutely. There's

so much about this movie. It seems to make old

seem so much more alive, like it makes the older

movies... I don't know. I think it really adds

more depth to the universe. And the fact that

it's more or less a Star Wars heist movie is

incredible. I mean, and it looks like it's going

to be more action than anything else, which is

going to be so freaking cool. I mean, I can't

wait till I do like a Star Wars spy movie or

literally, hell, give me a crime drama where

it's Star Wars bounty hunters. If you had Boba

Fett, if you made a a Boba Fett movie. If you

had it, like, you could turn it into, like, I

don't know, like, the movie Domino or something,

but with Boba Fett or something. Just imagine

how cool that could be. Have it be really, really

serious. Hell, you could even bring back Tamora

Morrison if you wanted to go back to the Clone

Wars era and follow Django Fett for a friggin'

movie. I would so be up for that. That reminds

me that it would be a perfect adaptation to film.

Django and Boba Fett and Boba Fett is dead. I

would like to see, there was one book, I can't

remember what it was, but it has Darth Vader

fighting Boba Fett and at one point Boba Fett

torches Vader and blows half of Vader's helmet

off and then Vader like chokes his ass out. that

they both fight with like friggin' lightsabers.

It's so cool. I wish I could remember what the

hell that book's called. It was like an old like

friggin' dark horse book. But there's so much

in this they nailed right. Like it's so cool.

And randomly Forest Whitaker's in this. So go

get him Ghost Dog. Yeah, well, and he's he's

supposed to be kind of a you know it almost seems

like a hardened warrior liaison type thing and

in the the rebel alliance and It it's kind of

funny because people some people are now complaining

that you know Rogue One having a female lead

and Again, Dan kind of makes a comment saying

I'm sure those complaining about Rogue One having

a female leader the same people complaining about

how easily Everyone gets offended too easily.

Yeah, I mean that's a weird thing I mean I saw

like I posted an article about this today, and

I had some people saying yeah, it's kind of screwed

up more Complaining about those other people

like oh, it's just them social justice warriors

complaining and all this other crap man When

this when did this become a big deal who cares

it? It's a Star Wars movie. I don't care if it's

a chick dude or a Wookiee I just want people

kicking ass Yeah, and it'll be nice to actually

see a Star Wars movie that doesn't revolve around

Jedi Yes, that's another thing to be excited

about me We don't have to worry about this will

be a movie where you might hear a lightsaber

once and it's not gonna be a good It'll be Vader.

Yeah, exactly. It'll be Vader. Maybe you might

see someone from the rebels using it because

it's possible and The only reason I say that

is because if you look at rebels because that's

canon, right? Yeah, it takes place right around

this time. Yeah, so Kanan's got a lightsaber,

Ahsoka's got a lightsaber, there's Inquisitors.

Before I continue, how far in Rebels have you

gotten? I've seen the finale. You have seen the

finale? Yeah. So you know all the stuff that's

transpired. I know everything as well, I've watched

it. So there's a possibility of more Jedi and

more... inquisitors existing, but if they focus

mainly on the ordinary people of the Rebel Alliance

and the Imperials, this could be so cool if handled

right. It's going to be a military movie, basically.

Yeah. And the nice part is you actually get to

see the Death Star being finalized. Yeah, like

that was so cool seeing them actually lower the

deflector dish, so to speak, in the place for

the main kind of like Death Star housing. All

I can think of is the radar has been jammed Well,

they actually do talk about like there's one

star wars x Expanded universe novel no longer

canon because it's now the legends crap But they

actually do talk about when they developed the

produce the prototype death star They talk about

developing it in the Maw installation, which

is near Kessel, and I'd be really curious if

they're going to have little hints towards stuff

like that. I'm really curious to see what new

elements will become canon. So there are rumors

that we may see Han Solo in part of this movie.

Well, I guess it will have to be a digital Harrison

Ford either that or the new casting for the younger

actor I'd be okay with that I mean as long as

it's not just a I'm here for no reason Sort of

thing. Um, I don't think Disney will allow That

to happen. I'm just I'm just here for no reason

No, no, no, what do you love what's what Mike

Mike just said allow it to you know just know

it'll have a reason because yeah that's been

off yeah that's what i'm saying i don't think

disney will allow the standard michael bay cameo

where it's like hey guys i'm just here that disney

won't do that crap now you know what would be

really kind of neat for them to do eventually

if they do more of these like kind of spin -off

movies if they did one from the imperial side

of the war if you add one follow a tie fighter

pilot And you could literally kind of make it

like I think there was a movie made Like I want

to say it was like it was like obviously decades

ago But I think it was called all's quiet on

the Western Front and it followed a group of

German soldiers that were conscripts They were

forced to fight for the Nazis Imagine if you

did that with Imperials, basically saw the war

from like a stormtrooper or a TIE fighter's pilot's

point of view. Imagine the dog fights you could

produce with Star Wars vehicles other than just

here's two minutes of X -Wings flying around.

Imagine a movie with a full 10 -15 minute dog

fight from a TIE fighter. That would be awesome.

Seriously, nerd boner engage. Like if you could

have like Iron Eagle slash Top Gun with Star

Wars, that's what I want. My reaction on Facebook

after I saw the rogue one trailer Rogue one trailer

when one trailer can outdo anything Warner Brothers

in DC attempt in a two -hour film Yeah, pretty

much and they didn't give away the entire friggin

plot either. Yep. No. Oh Batman v Superman man,

I you would not believe how many arguments that

has started on my face Ugh, that movie was terrible.

Um, but anyway. Uh, yeah, like, it's amazing

how well the trailers are cut together. And I

would argue Rogue One had a way better trailer

than Force Awakens. Because Force Awakens didn't

really tell you a whole lot. This one gives you

enough to get you excited, but doesn't give away

specific plot points. I mean, you know it's them

stealing the friggin' Death Star plans, but you

don't know how it's gonna come about. With like

Force Awakens, you hear, here's Finn, here's

Rey, here's Kylo Ren, randomly R2 for a second

or two, and here's BB -8. You knew nothing about

the plot, realistically, with Row 1. You know

what it is, and you're excited. And because it's

not JJ Abrams behind the camera this time, we're

going to see a different type of movie and a

different type of setup. That's something Star

Wars fans should be tremendously excited for.

It goes back to what I've been saying for years

about Star Wars. Regardless of what anyone feels

about the prequels overall in general, I will

defend Revenge of the Sith until I die because

it is the Darth Vader Anakin Skywalker story.

that we heard about in episode four, that we

wanted to, as kids, as a kid, I wanted to know

what the hell happened in the Clone Wars. In

episode three specifically, not episode one or

episode two, specifically gave me that story.

And this is kind of the same thing, where they

make mention of the stolen Death Star plans in

A New Hope. So we're now getting that part of

the story, which I think is important. In theory,

the final five minutes of this movie should be

Princess Leia aboard the tentative four. Mm -hmm.

Them going towards, like, Tatooine. The final

shot of this movie should be the stardust drawer

swooping down on it. Mm -hmm. Yeah, because then

that would be fitting tie -in to episode four.

Yep. And... you know theoretically this it's

done right this could it could either sink or

propel star wars as far as like there's solo

movies that aren't in the episodes like i don't

see how it would tank but because it's star wars

now i kind of wonder if they'll do movies that

take place during the original trilogy like would

we ever see something like a shadows of the empire

probably not Unless they heavily tweaked it so

that none of the like Han Solo Luke Skywalker

and all those guys were in it because there's

no way that they could recast for between those

films I don't I think it's possible, but you

don't think they could because it would take

away from the performance of the actual main

You'd have to get people to be really on board

with it the only thing I could see they could

do with Empire is show how Lando got to Cloud

City. Or maybe bounty hunters tracking down them,

because in Shadows of the Empire, you fight IG

-88 and Boba Fett. Actually, in theory, you could

do the story of Dash Rendar and just have the

young Han Solo reprise his role for all the five

minutes that you'd actually need him. So it's

not impossible Because I think shadows of the

Empire was one of the strongest Expanded universe

things that was ever done and Lucas considered

a cannon for years So it would now cool if they

could pull that off Now do you think we'll see

the Emperor show up to some degree like even

if it's just like a Supreme Leader Snoke kind

of kind of rule I don't think Supreme Leader

Snoke's gonna show up in rule No, I'm not saying

Snoke himself, and I'm saying like how he showed

up in the force awakens like that hologram capacity

I would assume so If Ian McDaniel or McDermott

whatever his last name is if he can still only

have to do is like they could digitally And then

he could just do the voiceover yeah, oh yeah,

and even if you didn't they could get the guys

from the Clone Wars stuff or the You know rebels

or whatever to do it, so yeah, yeah No, you know

I'm you know after seeing the trailer. I'm pretty

excited to see rogue one at this point now Yeah,

like I'm so hyped for this I'm more excited about

seeing rogue one than I was about force awakens

And I and I've said this before it's not because

I didn't want to see force awakens not because

I was except It's because where we all have our

social media, Star Wars is everywhere, and I

just wanted to be able to step away from Force

Awakens and find it at my own pace. With Rogue

One, I don't think they're going to have to do

as much of a marketing campaign for that film

that they did for Force Awakens, so I think...

Well, technically they didn't really have to

do much for Force Awakens either. No, I know,

but... By the way, one rumor that's been floating

around is people are grasping at straws at this

point, but it's a fun speculation on this one

at least. Unlike the Snoke one, which has gotten

ridiculous for everything. People are trying

to say that this lead role of Rogue One could

possibly be Rey's mom. Based on timeline. I didn't

see that. That's entirely possible. But she would

have to be with a Jedi not necessarily because

the sometimes it just happens true Like I'm pretty

sure Ray's mom and dad is one of those gonna

be a Skywalker. I'm almost 90 % sure of that

Kenobi or Skywalker. Yeah, like it's gonna be

something weird. I Mean, I'm all gearing towards

a Skywalker bloodline, but yeah, that's kind

of what I'm thinking too Although having rain

be a Kenobi would also be pretty friggin badass

Yeah, um cuz that would prove that the Kenobi

line is just as strong as the Skywalker line

Yeah, and I think and that'd be so cool, too

I mean this way we don't lose it and that's another

thing too you and McGregor said as far as I know

I know I've seen links of us, I don't know whether

it's actual quotes from him though, that they

would do solo Obi -Wan movies and he's not so

old that he couldn't do stuff. I mean, just because

he goes on to Tatooine doesn't mean he stops

doing stuff. In fact, I know there's a comic

where, yeah, I think it's the Marvel stuff where...

Those side missions. Mm -hmm. Yeah. Well, they

basically go to Obi -Wan Kenobi and say look

man I know you're trying to protect Luke But

you keep showing your face here the Empire is

gonna show up sooner or later and they're gonna

kill all of us So back the hell off and he's

like, I'm sorry, but yeah, cuz yeah, that's why

Owen hates Ben or that's why he hates Obi -Wan

is he keeps sticking his friggin nose into it

and he's drawing the attention to Tatooine so

there's a possibility of having another Obi -Wan

movie and I think that I could get behind that

because I I enjoyed Obi -Wan as a character the

Further he got along. Yeah, like Ewan McGregor's

like great Obi -Wan you know, and I wish that

they would have kept Qui -Gon around longer,

but I can see why they didn't but They could

always bring him back as a force ghost in episode

eight or nine Yeah, just have them do like a

voiceover or something. Well, they're saying

Yoda is supposed to be back in episode eight

But again, he'll be a ghost Yeah, well, they

can't have the original, you know Obi -Wan show

up. So yeah, cuz I'll guess was totally dead.

Yeah. Yeah, you totally digitize them and find

like a sound alike But I'd rather have Obi -Wan

during his prime. Yeah. Yeah Well, okay, so look

so say hey old Ben, how come you're all of a

sudden young again? Yeah, I decided I like this

better since Mike brought it up We all know that

that Lucas when he still had his his his baby.

He magically digitized What's his name Christensen

to be the new? Obi -Wan or the new Darth Vader

the new Anakin In the you know at the end of

Jedi, so they didn't digitize it. They had him

put go at and I know what I'm saying is is that

and you know Hayden Christensen ended up being

the new Darth Vader Force ghost so they could

do the same thing with with with Ewan McGregor

where Instead of having Alec Guinness you have

him Yeah, but that would be taken away and cheapening

the role that Alec Guinness played her They should

have never put Christiansen in the end of that

movie. That was kind of a scrap sheet. I can

see why they did it. I think it was a little

unnecessary. But I'm kind of okay with it. Because,

I mean, there is talks that he may come back

to play Anakin. If they could find a good reason

for him to do so, like if they had a flashback

to him. Well, they're talking about having him

as a possible force ghost with Kind of a combination

and this I know this is way off left field from

Rogue One, but We've gotten into Star Wars lore

now, so it's different but uh there there was

talks like in the original script that they were

gonna have the force ghost and have him kind

of a mesh between man and machine of Anakin and

Vader Mmm. Yeah, I'd be totally okay with that

because especially now that rebels are showing

how much older Anakin is in the armor. We've

seen his face, more or less. I'd be okay if Hayden

Christensen came back and reprised Vader, as

long as the performance was really strong. I

mean, admittedly, he was terrible in Attack of

the Clones. But Attack of the Clones was terrible

altogether because that was actually the first

film in motion picture history that was entirely

digitally done. Yeah, and when you let Anakin

perform or when you let Christensen get a little

bit out of his comfort zone in number three in

Sith He got better. I mean, especially that last

fight with like Obi -Wan he was intense. I loved

him in Sith so If he thinks he's grown as an

actor and under the right director, I'd be absolutely

okay with him coming back, because I like that

Darth Vader. I mean, sure, strike me down as,

you're not a real Star Wars fan, fuck you. He's

still cool, and he still could realistically

pull it off, and he's at the right age now, because

he's got to be in his 30s, at least now. Yeah,

and he's got the height down too, so he could

easily be in the suit as well. Exactly, I mean,

just let him do it. Make the role count. Don't

just do it for the sake of him being there. If

he can make it work, go for it. And the other

thing, I don't know if you guys, do you guys

watch how it should have ended? No. Surprisingly,

I've actually never seen one episode of that

show, but it always shows up in my feed. It's

actually pretty funny. Flash animation type set

up. They kind of rewrite movies and poke fun

at them, but it's in a fun way. So they did the

entire thing with The Force Awakens. Well, they

did an alternate one of how it should have ended,

and it's a lot shorter, but it doesn't go through

the entire movie. There's a part where General

Hux is going to Snoke, who they have him set

up to look like Gollum. And like I said, they're

making fun of it and Kylo Ren sitting there whining

and Hux is like, ah, nevermind. And then he like

leaves and they're like, what? And he's like,

my process. And so you see all of a sudden a

rebel Death Star come from around the planet

and blow away Starkiller base. And Finns on the.

the base with leia and he's like you just blew

away rain she says yeah i killed my kid too so

and then and then and then and then future spot

comes over and he says the needs of the many

outweigh the needs of the one or the few or whatever

and then they end it and it was like well they

could have because they had the death star plans

they could have fixed the the you know exhaust

shaft hole and then uh used it as a way to fight

the empire I don't know, I just thought it was

funny because... Star Wars. Possibilities. Yes,

possibilities. So, Botcon... I think... So, quickly

get to that and then we will... Get out of here.

Yeah. So, Botcon. The last Fun Pub Botcon is

this weekend here in Louisville, Kentucky. It

is at the Galthouse Hotel. Which, I have no idea

why it's at the, like, I understand why the Gold

House is the hotel, but there are plenty of other

places in downtown Louisville for them to have

the actual convention. Anyway, uh, April 7th,

April 7th to the 10th is BotCon, you can come

and meet David Kay, Greg Berger, Aaron Archer,

Judd Nelson, of course for Judd Nelson you gotta

pay 200 bucks to meet him. Actually, it's more

than that because you've got to buy one of the

higher -end packages. No, I looked at the website.

You can buy the general admission pass plus the

non -package version of the Judd Nelson Golden

ticket is $189, so it's just over $200 just to...

Well, kiss my ass, Denver. The coolest thing

about this, and we already had this episode on

GCR and HTTF, I interviewed Stan Bush, caught

up with him. He's in the works of a new album

for next year, but he and Vince DiCola are reteaming

up for a panel at BotCon Friday morning, the

8th of April, and then Friday night, they're

going to do a free concert here at 4th Street

Live, which is our entertainment district downtown.

It's going to be really, really awesome. so I

can't wait to go to that because the cool thing

about the concert is it's a free concert you

don't need to actually have to be a BotCon attendee

to actually go you can anybody can just show

up so see Mike I really think you missed an opportunity

this year to apply for I know media badger that

would have been so cool just to go hang out BotCon

does not give media badgers what they do not

there was only one source that got them last

year when I went and you either have to work

there or you have to be a CF radio. Yeah, and

the only thing that I really wanted out of this

BotCon was to actually meet Judd Nelson if I

was actually going to go to the convention. I'm

more than fine because I've got three different

friends that have come into town for BotCon.

I've got Lady of Rec on Twitter at Optibotamus

and our buddy Joe Reed from Off the Cuff, and

he does the turtle stuff on the pull bag with

me. So I'm more than fine just meeting up and

hanging out with them and going to the Stan Bush

concert, the Stan Bush and Misty Kola concert.

I'm more... You need to hang out with Stan, bitch.

You could be going backstage. Buddy, hook me

up. Who knows? We'll see. I'll call him right

now. No, don't. Just rock it off. See, I bought

Connors this weekend. It's gonna be an absolute

blast. Yep, and speaking of conventions, next

week, and I'll talk about it more next week,

but I will be going to Midwest Media Expo. Because

I won a contest. So I get to go for free. Are

they covering just your travel or your hotel

or what? It's a 45 -minute drive for me. Oh,

well, whoopie -fucking -doo. Yeah, so I'm driving.

No, I'm taking away from your experience, just

so I'm clear. I'll be driving on that Saturday

morning, going just Saturday and then coming

home Saturday night. But I got free weekend pass

for it. And so, yeah, I'm pretty pumped to go.

They're going to have... I've got to pull up

the site. There we go. Midwest I know this is

not okay. So since Steve is pulling in this I'm

gonna bring this tie back into Star Wars apparently

build a bear workshop debuts full -size wicked

the Ewok stuffed animal Thank you, it looks kind

of cool. I like the fact that it's not like sound

like it's got like sound clips And I'm curious

to know which ones they are um and the build

a bear Star Wars things are really really cool

Blair got me A first -order stormtrooper and

she got Chewbacca. They're really really well

made. I really want like a Boba Fett at some

point. Actually, yeah, I've got a clone trooper.

I've got like clone trooper Rex from there. I

got Darth Panda and a bunch of other ones. Actually,

I got a bunch of these things. Although the Build

-A -Bear C -3PO looks like a Gimp. It looks like

he's wearing, like, a sexual slave outfit. It's

so... Oh, God. Get that link up, Steve. Yes,

I do, thankfully. So, the guests for the convention

this year are Billy West, Kyle Hebert, Jeffrey

Combs, Richard Horowitz, Greg Wiseman, John St.

John, Steve Downs, Chris Evalone... And when

is this, Steve? Jason Marsden Then there's a

bunch of Cosplayers and writers that are there

on it. It is next weekend. You should try and

get an interview with Kyle I Can help gonna be

the 16th facilitate that so make sure you and

I touch base and I'll try and put you in contact

with him and Maybe you can work something out

Sounds good because we need to do more cyber

Dragon Balls and That's the announcer. I'm pretty

sure we couldn't get any more Dragon Ball Z -ish

than that. Funny thing is, we got comments on

that podcast. Did people hate us? No, they liked

it. They were actually like, oh, we didn't know

you did a Dragon Ball Z podcast. That's awesome.

Blah, blah, blah. So they were really connecting

with the video game aspect of it. So good stuff

there. So anything else you guys want to promote

before we go to the next clip? Well, for me,

for Twig, I've had to take a couple of days off.

I'm more like I've taken the last two weeks off.

I've been really sick. I'm hoping to get the

topic show on Batman v Superman out next week

sometime. I do have episodes recorded of other

shows. I'm gonna try and get nerd news out tomorrow,

ideally. So by the time you hear this, hopefully

it'll be out Friday, if not Saturday at the latest,

as I've changed the release schedule to just

be over the weekend now. Got some pretty major

medical news coming up at some point. So I may

be going in for major surgery towards the end

of this year. I don't know So hopefully I don't

you know die So yeah, that's fun. Um So yeah,

other than that things are still moving forward.

We're gonna do Game of Thrones This month is

the big topic show. I'm rewatching all five seasons

right now i'm working through a song of ice and

fire jesus christ his book is huge um george

george r r martin does not hold back jesus um

but yeah so good stuff coming up so uh winter

is coming just saying uh by the time this releases

we will have released episode 10 of mayhem mics

which is wrestlemania 32 um which is kind of

funny because we released it Three days after

our one -year anniversary of starting the show

last year with WrestleMania 31. So it's been

about a year since we've been doing May and Mike's

over on GCR. I've got the pull bag coming up.

We've got the next two He -Man issues for Eternity

War. And just a whole bunch of other stuff. Just

enter over to GeekCastRadio .com. We've got seven

plus years of content. As for myself, I just

recorded a video AlterGeek, which I mentioned

earlier in the show. The concept is I'm hoping

to get one out every week at this point now,

depending. Then obviously I'm going to be doing

the Midwest Media Expo, which I'm going to enjoy

every aspect of it, plus because I won that contest

and it had to do with an art design thing. I

get signatures on my art from everybody that's

attending as far as the media. So I get autographs

and I don't have to get them. They'll be on my

sheet of my design. So yeah, definitely looking

forward to that. So stay tuned for the next clip.

We'll be on your sheet. That sounded so wrong.

Oh, go take a sheet. listening to Altered Gaming.

So on this week's Altered Gaming we've got four

news articles. The first being 2016's Call of

Duty may be set in space. Yes that's right you've

heard in space and it's kind of interesting because

in my mind that kind of sets up a kind of modernistic

Unreal tournament. So I kind of I'm kind of interested

to see this I'm not and I've not played a Call

of Duty since like the the Nintendo GameCube

days so this is gonna be really weird for me

and I haven't played any of the modern ones I

know that the recent Call of Duty I don't know

which one it was called but uh I know that it

moves really fast and it's that new first -person

shooter speedy kind of shot blast that you get

in everything because the new Unreal tournament

that's coming out or that's been in alpha for

the longest time is set up the same way. So I'm

kind of interested to see how that kind of turns

out, but at the same token, I'm not a huge, like,

whereas, I'm kind of jumbling over my words here,

but the Call of Duty set in space, because it's

a Call of Duty, I probably won't get it, even

though it's kind of an interesting concept, only

because you're going to have And this is kind

of petty on my part, but I don't like it when

the vast majority of everyone playing is going

to spawn kill me. Whereas like Unreal Tournament,

I'm pretty damn good in that game. And Battlefield

4 I'm pretty good too, but this is... Call of

Duty is an entirely different beast onto itself.

Next up is Mass Effect Andromeda gameplay footage

emerges. And it clearly shows a jetpack, which

would be an awesome feature if they added that.

only because it was such a pain to have to run

back and forth and jump across things and figure

out ways of getting on top of areas that were

hard to get to. I hope that this is actually

Andromeda footage, but the jetpack is a really

cool feature. I cannot wait for Andromeda only

because I enjoyed the last Mass Effect trilogy

thanks to Birdman Dodd. So... How many of you

guys enjoyed or have played Mass Effect? I'm

just kind of curious there. I My first experience

was last year, so I'm not entirely sure What

to expect from this, but it was definitely a

fun fun game so moving on Microsoft artists list

the next Xbox as Xbox and e capital X t so nx

or next I'm kind of on the fence of this only

because I've Recently decided to abandon consoles

altogether and it's not because I don't enjoy

them. I still have my Xbox 360 I still play it

I still play Battlefield and you know Deadpool

transformers Batman all all of that stuff on

my Xbox 360 The only thing that kinda curbed

me from going to an Xbox One was not only the

price and the fact I can't afford it, but the

fact that it's basically a glorified PC, and

if I really wanted to do that, I'll just hook

a wire, HDMI and USB, through my wall, from my

PC to my TV, and just sit in my living room and

play. It's not really, I don't know, in my best

interest for that. But I do find that this is

a little interesting because they don't like

the idea. Going into an Xbox one and a half They're

not too keen on that. They just want a brand

new system rather than or an upgraded Xbox one

rather than Have a partial upgrade. It's going

to be a substantial upgrade. So If we might see

something from the the PlayStation side of things,

but speaking of PlayStation It sounds like because

of the announcement with Microsoft and being

able to play some stuff on between multi -console

type setup, the PS4 games should be able to play

in the future on a PC or a Mac. And all you would

need is a DualShock 4 controller and connect

to the internet and happy play. So what they're

saying is remote play is compatible with Windows

8 .1, Windows 10 or later. OS X 10 .10 and OS

X 10 .11 and you can select resolution and frame

rate options depending on the speed of network

available. The selection of ways to play resolution

options are 360 for 540 720. The default resolution

is 540. The frame rate standard is 30 frame rate,

high is 60 frame rate. The default frames are

30. So that actually sounds really interesting

because That would be kind of essential in this

fact that if you didn't want to have or somebody

was using the television Or you wanted to play

in a different room, and you had your computer

set up And you wanted to play that PlayStation

game Or that you know that kind of set up you

could do it and that's that to me I think it's

kind of important of this cross compatibility

thing is You know just like the the announcement

of Xbox live doing connecting their PC in their

their windows or their console users to play

games. I think that that's kind of a smart direction

that all this is going because it's, like I said,

they've all become glorified PCs so in doing

this it kind of helps that gap and allows you

more playability rather than being kind of stuck

to that one place. I wonder how that would work

if you were like on vacation and you wanted to

play your Xbox or I mean your PlayStation games.

How that would work. Kind of an interesting thing

to think about there. But that's it for the Altered

Gaming, so coming next I have some other geeky

content. Welcome back to Altered Geek Unlimited.

This part of the show we're gonna cover the Altered

TAC. So I've been wanting to kind of cover a

little bit of tech but I've been kind of waiting

for a bunch of it to kind of pile up and some

of the fun things that have kind of come up over

the last few weeks and it's kind of dating back

to March a little bit with some of it but some

of it not so much. It turns out that some researchers

have devised a skin that suppresses radar and

another that mirrors light so they're getting

kind of an invisibility cloak -ish type setup

going now. Just, you know, much in the same vein

of the aluminum that could be transparent, much

like Star Trek. This is kind of an interesting

thing because this is much like a Harry Potter

type of thing with the cloak -ish setup. But

they're showing that on a microscopic scale,

obviously. This is about the same scenario as

the other thing. They're saying that it's measuring

barely 80 nanometers thick and only large enough

to cover a few biological cells, but... They're

saying that they're starting to figure out ways

to block out all of that stuff, which is kind

of a cool concept. The only thing is, is you

might end up having people spying on you that

you don't know about. Hopefully it's only in

government situations, but it's kind of an interesting

thing. And then, of course, jumping back to the

Google Fiber that we were talking about a few

years back too. Google launches Google Fiber

Phone for those who can't ditch landlines. Now,

I don't personally know anyone that has a landline.

Even my grandparents don't have it anymore. I

don't see the use in it. But I guess if you want

a business from home or you make an insanely

amount of calls that you need it or you need

a fax line or something. But it does say that

this is Google Fiber Phone. They're giving fiber

phone users unlimited free calling to numbers

in the US or Canada. For other countries calls

cost the same as they would via Google Voice.

That doesn't mean fiber phone is the cheapest

way to replace your landline. At $10 a month

it's priced on par with Vonage. Though both are

quite a bit more expensive than what MagicJack

and Uma offer. They're saying that it's about

comfort and you don't have to switch. The only

thing is is you have to add it to your fiber

plan So that's how you keep the price cheap But

you have to also have Google fiber to get it.

So it's I guess it's kind of a cool thing if

you got fiber But if you don't it's probably

not worth you getting but I guess if you're attached

to your landline and you got Google fiber and

insanely fast internet speeds then might as well

go for it. I myself have had a cell phone for

better part of a decade and haven't had a landline

since I first moved out so I don't I Don't see

the use in it, but that's just me so moving on

I'm gonna go to the next clip which will be The

alter geek news network will be back after this

You're listening to the alter geek news network

Welcome back to the AGN and I'm your host Steve

Megatron Phillips and in this part of the show

I'll be talking about a great deal things That

sounded so stupid great deal things So yeah,

we just had recently the Star Wars episode 7

DVD blu -ray drop we've gotten various news dropped

since BBS came out Which I'll drop a little bit

on that to start out sifting through my news

So they're they're hinting softly that dark sides

coming which obviously we got from the thing

I'm doing clip notes of some of these news because

there's so many of them that came out of it last

week Zack Snyder states that Robin was killed

ten years ago in a run -in with a young joker

Kind of not a surprise there, but okay Fans have

petitioned for an R rated cut for the theater

screenings, which why? For one there aren't enough

of the fans that in that 100 % enjoyed the film

To put an R rated version plus you're gonna get

it on the disk anyway, so what's the point? It

was already dark enough now that also goes in

hand in hand with the other petition that fans

have started to get Zack Snyder off the Justice

League films and then That also goes hand -in

-hand gonna get tired of me saying that but they're

saying that uh The Wonder Woman movies been moved

up two weeks to earlier in June I believe and

then they're going to have two more DC films

come out that are untitled as of yet Speculation

as to what that is nobody knows So then of course,

you know, we've seen a couple shots of the first

Amazon's from the upcoming Wonder Woman movie

there's been about four Amazonians there with

Wonder Woman included Wonder Woman actress says

that more movies need to have female superheroes

which so far DC is really the only one gonna

have a solo superhero film that's got a female

lead so kudos to DC for doing something right

what Marvel's problem in that territory is I

have no idea considering There's two Star Wars

movies with a female lead that have done it or

one that hasn't come out yet one that has and

it's done extremely Well, even though it's a

flip -flop retelling of a new hope which everybody's

had fun Watching the side -by -side video after

the fact which which is kind of funny I Find

it interesting that everybody is like hating

on Batman v Superman yet. Everybody's liking

it too. Like it's Was it perfect? No. And I know

Mike and I talked about it last week, and I'm

not going to go into too much detail because

it's just retreading the same territory. But

I found it to be kind of... To me, and like I

said, I think I summed it up best when Wonder

Woman, Alfred and Batman were the best scenes

of that whole movie. A lot of it was like, I

don't know what was going on, but did I enjoy

it? As a movie, like just going and watching

a Shut My Brain Off movie, yes, I enjoyed it.

But for the coherence of it, again, that would

fall on the writers and everybody's blaming Snyder

because he's the public face of the film. Yes,

it's his vision of taking the script from there,

but it's still the writer. So just like Green

Lantern, it's still the writer. So. Enough with

the BBS that is or the BS that is BBS Yeah, so

moving on from that mess superhero movies with

like not movies TV shows such as Supergirl on

the Flash score the highest ratings and On that

episode which is kind of a no surprise no -brainer

there I Would love to see more of that. On the

flash, Katie Cassidy, aka Black Canary, Laura

Lance, is to appear as Earth 2 Black Siren. And

spoiler alert for anyone that's... Well, I'll

just say spoiler alert and then I'll pause for

a couple seconds. anybody that's seen arrow this

week should know that it was very saddening to

see this happen to a character from season one

and it ties into this scenario with Laura Lance

but uh yeah she apparently is no more and that's

the the grave that was at the beginning but She'll

live again on earth to so Hmm ending with that

legends of tomorrow They are suggesting that

next season they're going to have a new cast

which It's kind of cool. I I am fine with that

because if they if they keep the premise of the

show But they change the cast every season in

the the mission every season. I think that it

could be very well off It would be what Heroes

was supposed to be, but did terribly at, which

was starting over. But this would also mean that

with various Heroes departing from Flash and

Arrow, they could bring some of these people

back into the fold of those two shows and replenish

Legends of Tomorrow with new casts, now that

they've got the foothold behind it. But Mark

Guggenheim has a few insights on where the wave

writer might be headed or not When asked if the

show had any plans to include Batman Beyond His

I don't his answer made it seem unlikely. He

says I don't think so only because of DC's plans

for Batman Look, I love Terry McGinnis. I love

that whole Batman Beyond concept Star City 2046

was sort of our Handed the cap to Batman Beyond

in many many ways, but you never know Personally,

I think this would be an awesome addition is

having that may be on because we've never seen

that in live -action and honestly it would be

nice to see a light -hearted Batman that's got

the future tack and that's You know, I think

it would be really fun because you could instead

of having everyone coming from the same time

period like this is except for rip hunter You

could have diverse like you could have Jonah

Hax be on there you could have Batman Beyond

you could have booster gold you could have you

know Blue Beetle you can have Nightwing you could

have you know you could have a multitude of characters

and give it a nice gambit of characters and not

have this this tied down this of one one time

period you know you could have that they're defending

against you know Brainiac or something I mean

Or I mean, there's plenty of villains in the

DC universe that they could pull from so I mean

It's not like they they don't have this pool

to grab from but I think it would be really neat

if they did that or if they even added You know

at points You know green arrow and flash, you

know just to kind of tie in there or or they

they had to jump dimensions and bring Supergirl

in You know for a couple episodes. I think that

that would that would kind of strengthen legends

of tomorrow And I would really like to see it

go in that direction But they said that the next

the the team Next season the show is not going

to have a brand new cast next year The poster

is going to look almost the same which is kind

of unfortunate. I was Getting into this. I kind

of was hoping that They would replace most the

cast but I I think it would be better if they

went in the direction they went earlier on And

they had everybody go back to their their times

and then kind of pull from random directions

But I don't know I'm enjoying legends of tomorrow

a little bit more now because they're not I mean,

yes it is against Vandal Savage, but they're

kind of also jumping all over the place and it's

it's kind of getting more about the cast and

less about the Have to stop Vandal Savage blah

blah blah So that about rounds out for the Altered

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.com. And now back to the show. And we're back

with Altered Geek Unlimited. So rounding out

this episode we have the listener comments. So

we were having a discussion last week on Metacritic

and Rot Tomatoes and how they present information.

And thankfully SuperFilmFan98 kind of clued us

in a little bit because I'm a little bit ignorant

on some of those sites because I don't use them.

Particularly and I know Blanchard doesn't either

he's less apt to read a critic review than I

am I'm a little bit more open to it and I was

kind of having a little bit of discussion about

it you know, we had we had great critics like

Roger Ebert and You know Leonard Moulton who

still does some reviews, but not really And there

are some stuff some websites I'll read reviews

from and he mentioned even that he goes to like

film spotting or slash film You know and he would

listen to like Leonard Malton a little bit and

and Roger Ebert I While I enjoyed Ebert on his

stuff and I could get behind some of his reasonings

for everything I'm not didn't necessarily agree

with him on everything, but I did understand

him so I and I always used to watch his show

as a kid and even through my teenage years and

I always found it interesting so I definitely

get that. I don't really pay attention too much

to the fan ratings per se, but Superfilm fans

says that Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes use

the same information. They just present it differently.

The issue with Rotten Tomatoes isn't Rotten Tomatoes

is how people don't understand how it works.

It's just a percentage of positive reviews which

makes it hard to judge because of how low some

of those negative reviews are. or how high the

positive reviews are. You can't compare movies

to movies because each movie has a different

number of reviews and different people reviewing

them. So, for instance, Batman v Superman has

nearly 100 more reviews than Daredevil, for example.

Also, the user score for BBS has dropped to like

79%, which will probably drop even lower when

more people see it. Rot Tomatoes does give you

an average score, and BBS is about 5 out of 10.

Which is about right if you ask me. Deadpool

is like 6 .5 out of 10, which isn't much better,

but its Rotten Tomatoes score is like 50 % points

higher. So it gives the false impression that

critics loved Deadpool so much more than BBS

when it wasn't that big of a difference. If you

don't just look at the RT score on face value

and actually look more into it, you'll get a

much better picture of what the overall opinion

of the movie was. Personally, I wasn't and would

rank it like a 4 or 5 out of 10. Might disagree

with that a little bit more like I might give

it a six because The only redeeming aspects of

it again was we got a witty helpful Alfred much

like Batman the animated series we got to see

Wonder Woman on on film for the first time And

we got to see Batman uses detective skills We

get to see both sides Bruce Wayne and Batman

and we get to see a lot of the you know The suit

was awesome. The car was awesome. A lot of the

stuff he did was awesome. So I mean it Those

redeeming qualities right there. I would give

it a six out of ten. I would I agree It's not

a perfect movie. I'm not gonna argue that I I

totally understand where it falls on the ratings

and down the scale I Did find Deadpool to be

more entertaining and coherent of a movie and

more more fun But I also see that it's not a

perfect film either But it is you you know what

you're getting with Deadpool this I don't think

anybody really knew what they were getting the

entire time it was coming And I think that was

part of the problem. But SuperFilmFan98 also

continues. He says, people misunderstand the

purpose of movie criticism, to be honest. Movie

critics are, by all means, experts in film, for

the most part, and use their review to delve

into things most general fans won't. Which, I

totally agree there. Totally agree. Like, I've

gotten to know a little bit of the film industry

because I'm studying to work in the film industry.

So... I'm in a screenwriting class right now.

We're having to write our pilot or getting ready

to write our pilot and that's gonna be my intro

to my superhero genre that I'm creating my series

that I'm creating and So like I'm totally getting

this this aspect of you know It's you have to

understand each level of the beast like there's

you know you're looking at the audio is a separate

part the video is a separate part like the screenwriting

the the directing, the actors, like everything

comes into play and can create this cohesive

excellent film or a pile of garbage. It just

depends on how well each player fits into this

puzzle. But yeah, it's you got to understand

every aspect of it. But anyways, he says, critics

know people will go see BBS, Transformers or

the Avengers, no matter what they say. For me,

critics are translators. They take the art of

film and break down its meaning and purpose.

Critics can explain where the camera goes and

crucially, why it goes there. hinting at a more

analytical, interpretive understanding of a film.

Yes, that can also be done on an individually

standpoint, but there is a benefit for someone

who has a degree in film or long study to art

form to provide insight that would be unseen

by the novice. That is the downside of star ratings

and RT scores. Geeks and fans will scream from

high heavens that critics are wrong, which is

missing the point because rarely is that person

actually reading the review they are complaining

about. When I hear people say things like fans

no more than critics, I find it a tad laughable.

Fans are more forgiving to critics as is the

nature. A critic should review a film for what

it is and not incorporate fandom when it comes

to rating a film like we may. They should judge

it based on its own merits, so a film like BBS

will get slammed because there are major storytelling

problems that hold it back from being a good

movie. That's not saying a bad movie still can't

be entertaining, which I totally agree with everything

that he's just said. It's... Now, if you would

have talked to me seven years ago when we had

movie weekend review, like the initial episodes,

yeah, Mike and I bashed the crap out of critics

left and right based on scores and based on certain

keywords that they were saying that were singled

out by somebody that didn't agree with them.

So, totally get where that's coming from. My

evolution over the last seven years is I've gotten

to understand it and I've gotten to appreciate

what it is that they're trying to say. and kind

of try and look at things a little bit more analytically,

is this still going to be one of those movies

that I enjoy and I like, and it's one of my favorites,

probably because I enjoy those aspects that I

mentioned before that make it good to me. The

rest of the film, I'm quite frank, I'll probably

fast forward through it, but that being said,

I still didn't care for the Nolan verse all that

much either. I liked The Dark Knight, but I didn't

like some aspects of that film either. I didn't

like The Dark Knight Rises and I didn't like

Batman Begins so that again these all kind of

go hand in hand. I haven't really fully enjoyed

a Batman movie ever and I think that's part of

my problem. I'm a DC fan but in animation and

this is and I was having this conversation on

Twitter the other day that that we were kind

of going back and forth and they were more or

less saying that that um when fans sit there

and bash on something they don't do it they do

it as a fan they don't do it as like being realistic

like somebody says I just because like somebody

was giving a death threat in the comments area

about differences of opinion you know people

beating with a shovel over opinion Somebody said,

you know, we had a conversation going with a

couple different podcasts, podcasters. They were

saying that they can't envision people getting

that worked up over a comics universe. Fanboys

should be, can be wondrous to behold. And then

another one says it's downright embarrassing.

And then somebody, the other guy was said, again,

we dark horse people are far more civilized than

those Marvel people or DC people. And it says,

for too many fanboys, the lack of self -awareness

is their superpower. To which I replied, being

my self -awareness, I said, I am a DC fanboy

on the animated and television side of things,

Marvel and films and IDW and comics. And basically,

you know where you stand kind of thing. It was

it was funny to me to kind of have this conversation

because years ago I probably would have taken

offense to some of that but I I'm having fun

with it now like it's And even a year ago I would

think I was in a darker place mentally because

like a lot of this would have offended me as

far as Going back and forth with them changing

too much stuff and with you know how the film

turned out and I find it to be Like I say quite

entertaining now on the other part of the comments

that we had And I briefly brought this up in

last episode With King of Kong's and it was mentioned

earlier in the episode with TFG1 Mike and Birdman

Dodd We are having the top 50 video game countdown

franchise countdown coming and You can vote now.

It's at the top of the website There's a link

that you'll click there I did since the last

episode because I'd forgotten in the shuffle

it was supposed to come out almost a month ago

and there was extenuating circumstances that

prevented me from getting all of these things

done. So I further amended some of the rules

at the top of it before you make the submissions

and I made it function much like the top 100

and I had some questions posed so I kind of put

them in there. It's kind of based on a variety

of aspects, whether it's your favorite, highest

quality, popularity, evolution, longevity. You

kind of have to kind of mesh a lot of that together,

because I do have my biases. Yes, I love the

Arkham games, but are they perfect? No. Do I

love the Battlefield games? Do they belong to

be number one? No. So there are things that...

You kind of have to weigh based on a variety

of things, you know the storytelling like how

long the series has been around How well it's

evolved the popularity of it, you know, it's

these all these things go all hand in hand and

I'm I had a real In mind you I only put about

43 out of the 50 For my own list because a lot

of my games I play are in a franchise of one

of those those capacities So like if you put

Mario Super Mario Brothers That can encompass

Super Mario Brothers 1 through 3 the new Super

Mario Brothers and Super Mario Brothers 2 in

that Super Mario world so like You know it I'm

going based on the title so like halo that would

cover the entire halo franchise battlefield the

entire battlefield Arkham it would be the entire

Arkham series like including origins because

they're all you know even though it wasn't Rocksteady

that made it it's still the same It's the same

storyline, so I mean You kind of have to piece

all these things together and that's kind of

what I was hoping for with this is that we could

alleviate the need for You know Batman to show

up four times or battlefield to show up three

times Call of Duty show up five times Halo to

show up three times You know stuff like that

and because if we had a top 100 this be for real

a lot of those would show up a lot and it would

be a extremely Unbalanced list because there

would be a lot of things left off And that's

why we kind of opted when we were talking about

it to do the franchise setup because there's

less franchises than there are games. And when

I say that, I mean, like I said, there's like

five, 10 games in a franchise. You eliminate

the need for 10 of them to show up on the list.

So anyways, it will be tabulated in a multitude

of ways, which we'll discuss in the opening and

initial podcast, which will cover 50 through

26 in that episode. And then the second episode,

which will be the 25 through one. and the wrap

-up. It will be a two -episode podcast. The voting

round, actually the cutoff for the open entry

into the submissions is April 20th. I'm doing

it, it's such a short interval of two weeks because,

and if there's not enough submissions I may extend

it and it'll have to be pushed another week,

which I'm kind of hoping not, but if so it just

happens that way. I'm hoping to get enough people

by then and then I'm hoping shooting for April

22nd to release part one and then April 29th

part two of the podcast so I'm the only thing

that we're requiring in this this particular

episode or in this particular submission form

you do have to give at least your top 10 so like

number one is your number one of all you know

of your countdown of your all -time you know

favorite franchises and then you know I'm just

requiring that you do 1 through 10. If you decide

to go beyond that and go down to the 50, great.

If you don't, you don't have to. But at least

with doing the 10, it still gives enough of the

franchises a placement in the top 50, and it

allows you to still vote. Because I don't want

people to be, you know, feeling like they can't

have a say if they don't have an entire 50. And

that's kind of... I'm trying to kind of balance

the waters here I did require that you have to

put in an email and a name But it's more so the

email is so that I have a way of notifying everyone

When we're going to be doing the release If they

so choose Then the name part you don't have to

put your real last name. It's just so that I

know who's voting You can put a geek name or

a common name or Twitter name, whatever, in the

last name. It's just so that we can help do that.

And then if you have a 50 and you'd rather do

an Excel document, you can upload there. But

again, this entire list is put together by you,

the fans, with us. And I'm hoping that this garners

a fun top 50. And at the end of this top 50 countdown,

We'll be teasing the next upcoming event from

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this episode. I hope it's not too long winded

for you guys. I hope you enjoyed the segments.

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me, feedback at geekcastradio .com. or contact

on Twitter at AlteredGeek or myself at SCP -21.

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