Three Years of Geekdom: Jobs, Internet, and DC Trailers

You're tuned in to Steve Megatron on Altered

Geek Unlimited Hello and welcome to Altered Geek

episode 153 your anniversary show I'm your host

Steve Megatron Phillips and joining me this week

are The double likes nobody nobody's here. Yeah,

I just assumed plancher would go second Sorry,

not always technically. This is your all shows.

So technically I'm so Well, that's I don't I

appreciate that but I don't know that I can I

don't know that I can still qualify You're the

one that started the show with him three years

ago. Not me. So yeah, technically this is your

all show and I'm just here Okay. Yeah Mike shows

up for the free microphone and then... Wait,

I paid $66 for this thing. I'd be sarcastic.

Yeah, I know. Radio free Mike. That'd be a dead

air. Oh, yeah. Crickets, crickets. Dead air for

everyone all around. Yep, pretty much. Or clicking

and typing sounds. I've used mute for the last

three years So what's new guys um I'm finally

setting settling into my new job With Christy

digital actually how's how's that been going

uh well um I'm really enjoying it I can't The

best praise I can possibly give it is I can't

believe it's a job Because so far it doesn't

really feel like one The only bad thing the only

bad thing I sounded really that bad because I

can kind of deal with it is I was more or less

Throw it into the field and it's like you'll

learn as stuff happens or like as you need to

know things That's when you'll learn about them

So that's been a learning experience over the

last two weeks. So I apologize because the last

episode I was on I was like, yeah, I should be

able to be on on the next two Thursdays there

for you guys. So I have nothing going on. The

only problem is, is that I was way too paranoid

about work because of the way that it is, is

Ohio is a one man market. So I'm responsible

for the entire state. And so it's like, so the

job is never like, uh, done until like 10 PM.

So there's like special things where like, yeah,

it's like a seven to four, you know, it's kind

of, and you can kind of make up your own hours

because it's like, there's no special pay like

on the weekends. It's like, once you, once you

hit 40, obviously you get time and half and stuff

like that, but it's. There's no special like

every day is treated like the same so it's like

if there's something to do you just go and take

care of it and The only time I can think of is

like when I don't have to jump for my phone When

it goes off is like after like 10 p .m. Or later

so like the first two weeks it was kind of like

I'd go and drive to like Cleveland or Cincinnati

and And and do a couple things and then I'd come

home And like four and you know that I've got

six hours where it's like I'm kind of like on

the edge of my seat I can't really relax focus

on too much But now having having been in in

that boat for Well, actually I'm just tomorrow

will be the end of my third week with the company

so very cool I'm finally starting to get like

figure out like a process for everything because

like not every call that I get is something that

I have to like run out the door for so you kind

of get to You accept cases that need to be addressed

and you kind of fit them into like a schedule

And then there are other ones where it's like

you have to go and do something now So it's like

kind of like the best way I can think to explain

it is kind of like being a doctor where Sometimes

you have like you've got regular patients that

you see that make appointments and then you've

got Sometimes where it's like, okay, you've got

something you got to take care of like right

now Then everything has to be like rescheduled

around it so I'm just finally starting to get

the grasp on that which allows me to Relax a

little bit in the evenings and have some free

time It was is the first case I was actually

able to feel like I was doing anything on was

actually kind of funny because There the theater

I worked at for ten years. They had one type

of projector so I got really familiar with one

type of projector set up and You know one really

good on this one system and the first theater

I go to Completely different projectors that

I've never seen before So I'm immediately just

out of my element and there are people I can

call, you know So I don't I don't feel like left

like alone or anything, but I'm like, I have

no clue how any of this stuff works Some of the

underlying fundamentals are all the same But

I was kind of like, all right, a little over

my head here. But no one knows that unless you

say something, you know. So in front of the theater

staff, I was keeping my cool. But secretly, I'm

over in the corner on my cell phone crying. You

know, I wasn't I wasn't actually crying. But

yeah. But so the first call I was actually able

to go on and not feel like that was like I went

out to a theater and they had a You know, a lot

of theaters now, they use TVs to display their

show times. So I go out there and there's the

TV, see the show time. I got a call that one

of these TVs was like, wasn't showing its image

or the image was tinted pink. And I was like,

I was like, okay, well, I'm like kind of nervous,

you know, because like I'm, first of all. You

think I kind of thought this job was gonna be

like projectors only it's not it's whatever a

theater needs an extra set of hands for Wow Minus

janitorial and like actual like being ushers

and stuff like that, but So I go out I go out

to the site and I'm kind of like I have no I

was like You can't really be this simple They

the way that these theaters work, there's a central

hub and there's a like, let's say like they've

got a media player, like one DVD player hooked

up to it. OK, that DVD player comes out, it goes

into a box and then on the other end of that

box, it turns that video signal into an ethernet

or cat five or cat six cable. And then they'll

they'll run that wherever they need to in the

building because cat six is way cheaper to run

than like an HDMI cable for like hundreds of

feet. Yeah, and on the other end of that cat

5 cable or cat 6 you put a receiver Which then

takes that signal and turns it back into an HDMI

cable or DVI or VJ or what -have -you a video

a standard video cable and So I got you know

I got a ladder and I went up and I was looking

at the looking at the TV and I you know power

cycle the TV and just thinking Maybe it's something

that simple. It wasn't it was however as simple

as unplugging the receiver From power waiting

10 seconds and plug in the receiver back in Wow,

but That like that one simple little thing like

after all the other stuff that I had done like

that week like I was able to do that without

having to like call anybody and being like hey

Not too familiar with this stuff yet. What am

I doing? So I actually felt pretty good about

that and I was like the first that was the first

time where I was able to like Step off the paranoia

ledge So and then of course after I got so many

cases I was able to see how things work and that

not everything is like go go go So I've had some

had some crazy things like last night I had to

Take apart a Sony projector Which was fun interesting

it was They are without trying to get myself

in too much trouble here I will say they are

over engineered to a fault that's that's Sony

for you I mean they've been over engineering

stuff for 50 years they are innovators yeah so

let me ask you now that you're somewhat three

weeks settled into the new place and the new

job What is your favorite thing about being in

Ohio versus being in Michigan? If I'm being completely

honest with myself, just because everything in

my house runs on the internet, I'm just completely

flabbergasted by the internet that I get here.

Which was an ordeal in and of itself. What company

is out there? Time Warner is out here. and AT

&T and then a company called Wow, which is wide

open. It stands for wide open. Wireless? No,

wide open west. They are in Ohio. They are in

southern Michigan, apparently, which I did not

know. But I'm getting 300 megs for about seventy

five. Wow. And that's not on a special. and they're

supposed to be increasing that to 600. Steve,

let's go to Ohio. Yeah, really. Yeah, it's 300

down and 20 to 25 up. So it's more than adequate

for what I need here now. You think? I'm only

getting 25 now, so. And 75 is what I was paying

for living in Michigan, but I was only getting

like 100. So I'm paying the same price and getting

three times faster internet, which makes me happy.

However, I will say before I Over at the whole

beginning part of this podcast like getting the

internet set up in this happen in this townhouse

was a nightmare in my opinion, so Let me just

start at the beginning here. And if anyone's

tuned out already, I'm sorry, but I'll be good

So I I'm I'm really picky when I come out to

when I when I look at a place and Alan I kind

of jumped in this place I kind of had an idea

where I was going to put stuff like in the family

room where the TV was going to be and I wanted

to have the the router and the modem next to

the TV so I could hardwire all my stuff in that

needed to be hardwired you know so I wanted everything

on the main floor so I come I get out here on

move -in day and I had scheduled for the WoW

installer to come out and meet me much later

in the afternoon so that You know, I the truck

would be unloaded and I would be kind of just

putzing around when he came out to the house

so I could Address any situations that came up

while he was down here that didn't work out I

got here with the truck at the same time. They

showed up to install the internet. So it's like

90 degrees outside Myself and my dad are unloading

the truck and the installer is going through

the house There's two cable jacks on the main

floor in the family room there's a cable jack

in the first bedroom and there's a cable jack

in the second bedroom and The first bedroom is

gonna be the master bedroom, which I you know

didn't want the thing in there The second bedroom

was is where I am now recording it. So it was

gonna be like the den or whatever But like I

said, I wanted on the main floor the guy comes

up to me while I'm unloading the truck and says

Only one jack in the house is wired for Wow internet

Because apparently they use Wow uses a different

type of coaxial that uses runs at a different

frequency to deliver their speeds and the other

three Outlets were done by Time Warner and they

used the standard coaxial cable So the guy couldn't

he couldn't piggyback on the lines that time

Warner had put in So basically he was telling

me the only room in the house that could do it

was the second bedroom, which is upstairs nowhere

near my stuff. Oh Damn and so I was like, I'm

like, are you kidding me? There's like nothing

you can do and he's like no apparently like they

ran everything in through like the ceiling and

And it just so happened that like the management

for the townhouse was out here because my keys

originally didn't work. So they were out here

like when he was here and I asked them like if

they knew where that where the cables and everything

came in and the guy, the management literally

said. A lot of times they'll run a brand new

cable from the wow box around and into the basement

and then up to wherever the customer wants it

and they'll leave it on the ground and some people

will come by and bury it. Like later on after

the cables run for whatever reason I don't know

if it was because it was a Saturday and like

90 degrees outside But this cable installer was

not having any of that stuff. Yeah So like he's

like he's like, yeah, it's not your your cue

boxes He took me around Shelby where the connection

is and how it was actually set up and everything

He's like, yeah, I'd have to like leave a cable

like laying out around which like I said Townhouse

management said that's like a normal thing. But

he was like I'm not I'm not doing that and I

was like Find whatever just hook it up. I'll

call and Have them come out and run a cable,

you know and bury the cable So he hooked it up

in the upstairs bedrooms just so I had internet

house because I can use Wi -Fi, right? Yeah,

the problem is the whole thing was like completely

jacked up. So The Wi -Fi router that I use is

an airport extreme AC router, which is fantastic

In my opinion And I took it It was it was set

up in the main room here right next to the modem

And if I went downstairs into the family room,

I wasn't getting 300 Meg speeds. I was getting

like 20 Wow, and so I'm like this is Frickin

ridiculous. So I was trying I was going through

everything I could possibly think of in my head,

which of course Routers Wi -Fi routers. They

work in a dome. They don't they don't fire down.

They want to fire up and shower everything so

Got the suggestion from Joe Reed. I tried flipping

my router upside down so it would fire the Wi

-Fi signal through the floor. Oh sweet In that

That worked but it only got me like Like up to

a hundred Still that's funny Yeah, so I went

and bought these um These they're power line

adapters so they can take the power line in your

the power the power lines in your home and turn

them into an Ethernet connection Okay, so I I've

heard about them seen them I thought about using

them in my other house Before I moved down here

and I thought well, this is a perfect. This is

a perfect way to try this out So I went and bought

those Hooked it up. It worked the way that it

should but I was only getting so I had a hard

I had a quote -unquote Hardwired connection down

to the main floor now The issue is I was getting

like 70 or 80 between 70 and 100 megabytes over

that nowhere near the 300 that I was supposed

to get and So I was kind of like, okay, well,

I had already called and made the appointment

for them to come out and bury the cable, but

they said it was going to be any time within

the next two weeks. So I was like, all right,

I can sit here and I can wait for them. I can

deal with this while I wait for them to come

out and bury the cable and get myself hooked

up the right way. Well, that night I was listening,

I was watching, I think I was either playing

games with Joe or I was watching something on

Netflix and I could hear this. I thought it was

one of my cats breathing. but it was static coming

from my speakers. It was like this, it was intermittent.

You can only hear it when like it was a quiet

scene. That's why I thought it was like, I thought

it was like one of my cats breathing, but I,

you know, got down on my, got down and crawled

up to where my speakers were and I could hear

it like intermittently in the speakers. And I

was like, you've got to be kidding me. So I was

like. I thought maybe it was like just the power

in the house, like anything. Long story short,

I traced it back to being those ethernet connectors.

Oh, damn. It was it was only present any time

I was trying to stream something because that

signal is piggybacking on the existing wire,

the wire structure in the home. Oh. So I took

those out. I was like, I can't have that. No.

What I did is I was like, OK, you know what?

I don't want to do this, but I'm going to do

this anyways. I had a really long left. I had

a really long 100 foot ethernet cable left over

from when I wired my old home and I ran it out

of the out of the second bedroom. down the stairs,

along the wall, all the way around to where I

wanted my modem and router in the house. And

this was like Tuesday now. So I've been I got

here on a Saturday. It's Tuesday now. I kid you

not, I'd spent maybe eight hours at that time,

maybe 12 just fidgeting with this stuff because

it was driving me crazy. You know, first it's

like slow speed, the bad Wi -Fi, the sound of

my speakers. This stuff and so I ran that cable

downstairs and all of a sudden I had 300 megabytes

in every room of the house even on Wi -Fi because

the router was able to work the way it was supposed

to be I was able to hook the switch up to and

get you get the switch running to hardware all

my stuff in Meanwhile, the modem is still sitting

Up here like in the main room, but the internet

comes in and then runs from the modem downstairs

to the router and then the signal gets shot back

upstairs. Cool. So that was like the it just

drove me mad because like every step of the way

I was like, this shouldn't work like this. This

is ridiculous. And I kind of I kind of wrapped

it up and and made it look nice because I ran

it with a green cable that was like way too long.

Like 100 feet was way more than I needed. So

I went on Monoprice and I ordered two white 75

foot cables. Because my wife really wanted to

have her PlayStation hardware in. So and this

is her room. This is where she games. So she

was like, yeah, the modems in my room. I get

the game. You know, I get the best connection.

So what happens is it comes in. Signal comes

into the modem. One white 75 foot cable carries

it downstairs to the router. And then. there's

another 75 -foot cable plugged into that router

that runs right back up the stairs and into her

PlayStation. So all the game consoles are...

anything that can be hardwired in this house

is hardwired. Anything that runs on Wi -Fi is

running on Wi -Fi. Awesome! What about the area?

What about... you guys have been there for a

while now. What have you liked about being in

the area for Columbus? So we've kind of kept

to the, I guess it'd be like the northeast side

of Columbus. In terms of like where we live directly,

I think it's kind of a lateral shift from where

we came from because we, we came from like Burton

and we became, you know, Flint in the Burton

area. It wasn't, it was not a bad area where

we were because we were closer to Davison. But

it was kind of we kind of made a lateral move.

We didn't really go up or down like lifestyle

wise. Right. So like if we drive like 10 minutes

in any direction from here, like the the scenery

changes like drastically for the better. Sweet.

And there is like. Or within 10 minutes of three

different movie theaters. and then also 10 minutes

from two different Apple stores, like three different

Best Buy's. Didn't that kind of overkill? I mean,

technically, don't stores have the same damn

thing? You know, I gotta say, I'm amazed by what

is going on, like, because I drive all over the

state. Okay, I've been in the last two weeks.

I've been to Cleveland three times now I've been

to Cincinnati once and I'm going there two times

next week. I'm going I've been to Finley for

anyone that knows, you know high where Finley

is about two hours north kind of like Cleveland

is but I've been to Finley Twice and I'm going

tomorrow again Um, but I drive all over and the

one thing that doesn't seem to be a lack of is

like construction going on, like in Michigan,

like there's a lot of abandoned products and

like the roads are crap. Like I, I don't know,

like I heard, you know, from my friends, from

my Michigan fans, my friends that are Michigan

fans, I heard nothing but crap about Ohio. And

I think it really just comes down to like a sports

thing because yeah, the speed limits are a little

slower here, but. Like the traffic management

and the roads are way better than whatever and

whatever is going on in Michigan So I don't and

there is a lot of development like there are

there all these there are so many little pockets

of My forgive me like I don't know I don't know

your area too well, but Steve like the In Grand

Blank where they were trying to build really

built like Walmart In Graham. Yeah, I have all

those like little shops and was kind of like

really nice like imagine that but like Every

every shop you can think of being located in

there as well and like probably five times bigger

Wow, like there are tons of these little pockets

like all over the place and I see them and like

like I said, I'm ten minutes away from Two of

those is that kind of like going to like Great

Lakes crossing area like Auburn Hills Yeah, but

it's all outside and it's all like It's it's

designed in such a way that you can like walk

to each different place and it's so so like birch

run Yeah, but doesn't look like dilapidated like

birch run. Yeah There's like a dump like it's

it's so weird like seeing and like I said I don't

know like this this kind of thing I can't think

of a place for this but like work in michigan

because like uh I I just don't feel like michigan

either either michigan doesn't have the money

or doesn't have the population to support this

it also could be because Columbus is like a much

bigger city than Flint. But even Detroit doesn't

have anything like what this is. As far as I

know, from just driving around Detroit and where

I've gone, because you see little pockets of

development and where things are, but this is

like... This is like on a whole nother level,

like what they have out here. And there's so

many of them. Like Mike, I agree with you. It's

like, where are all these people coming from?

And I think it also translates to, it's got to

be like just the sheer size of Columbus being

like a major city because... along with all the

upscale stuff and the nicer surroundings, as

far as shopping goes, there is a whole lot of,

I do see, and it could be, I haven't quite figured

out what to attribute it to yet. It's either

the massive increase in population or just the

amount of time I spend on the road, but I really

can't go out without seeing at least four or

five car wrecks of varying severity. And the

other thing I would give them credit for here

is while there's a lot of construction going

on, they manage it really well. And there's always

a cop with the construction group. Yeah. Columbus

is more of a, it is a big city, but it's also,

it's a big city with a small town feel. And here

in Louisville, Kentucky, they try that, except

there's so much backwards. Crap here that it's

just not even funny it really like you know you're

saying about these these little pockets of you

know construction and stuff They've they've had

various things over the last 20 years of 28 some

odd years I've lived here that you know constructionist

popped up and something new has happened and

you know 20 years later They've let it go. They've

let it get dilapidated. They've let it get what

like we had This was this was at least Well,

no, last year it was 50 years. 50 years ago last

year, National Amusements, Showcase Cinemas,

whatever it was called, when it first started,

debuted on Barchetown Road here in Louisville,

Kentucky. I think it was 3408 Barchetown Road,

if I remember correctly. And that theater went

on for almost 40 years. I found it when I came

down here in 93, here in Louisville. In 2005,

they shut it down and eventually destroyed it

and now a Costco is going in there. And I'm like,

wow, that's just hard. The whole area of where

I used to live here in this town has just changed

so much in 20 years and not for the better. There's,

um, where a mine key used to be, there is now

a liquor barn and a wheat shop. And I'm like,

how is that like, But you're saying earlier that

you go all over the state and that you go down

to Cincinnati. I'm thinking, hey, if you drive

an hour and a half south, you can come see me.

Yeah. Oh, you forget. I I'm only I'm down there

to work. Plus, I get paid. No, no, no, no, no,

no. I know. I'm just saying that I'm just saying

that I'm not. Yeah, I don't. I'm not planning

any regular excursions down to Cincinnati unless

I'm getting paid for it. Yeah. So I get I get

I get paid to go down there and come back. So

it's like that's part of my my job. I've already

worked 40 hours this week, but I like more than

half of that was me just driving in a car. Oh

no, I completely understand. I'm just saying

the location. Yes. No, I know. I'm perfectly

aware of how close I am to Kentucky. I think

a lot of people are that live around here. Oh

boy. But yeah, everyone's been really nice. It's

funny going into the theaters and everyone's

like, because they know I'm new. Mm -hmm. They're

like, where are you from? I'm like Michigan and

every single one of them always has the same

response. You're like, oh I'm like, I'm not a

sports fan. I'm like, okay Steve what are you

been up to this this past week or so? Um Marketing

this podcast That's been part of it. The other

part is I redid the alter geek comm and then

I've been trying to migrate all of my domains

over to Google domains because it's getting too

hard to figure out what hosts I have all these

different domains at because I have some over

in one, you know, this area and some over on

this host and some over on this host and then

they all link back to the same web hosting account

I have but so I've been moving them all Slowly

to Google domains and the nice part about Google

domains is that they give you privacy for free

on the domains Which normally other web hosts

you have to pay like an extra like hold up three

to seven dollars up? Google is giving you those

domains now for free. I know they do domains.

They're giving you privacy for free. Yes. I Just

seems counterintuitive Well, it's they they mask

your information. They obviously know your information

because you're with them. But is it free to transfer

or do you? It's it's what it is is because of

the way the ICANN records work. OK, you you pay

for another year of the web hosting. OK, like

it's free to transfer, but you have to pay for

the next year of hosting. OK. or of the domain

name or whatever so like it's you know 12 bucks

to move it from wherever it is to Google which

is in some cases cheaper mm -hmm and they give

you the the privacy thing for the the domain

so nobody can see any information so like I said

I've been moving stuff and then and then re -upping

some of them that I don't want to lose or that

are due within the next month so Yeah, I've been

doing that and then jumping back into some audio

play, fan dub type voice roles that I used to

do back before the network and during the early

stages of it. It's funny because a couple of

audio plays I did on BehindTheVoiceActors .com

for their casting call set up that they set up

about three years ago. A couple of the transformer

ones that I... auditioned for I Couldn't figure

out where some of these people were contacting

me from And they were telling me oh, yeah, I

got this script and I'm like, oh, yeah nice blah

blah blah and then you know just kind of Humoring

to some extent because like I knew Who they were

vaguely, but I couldn't remember who they were

because I was seeing their real name on Facebook

and not their screen name And they would just

contact me and a lot of times like I just because

I may not always remember who it is I kind of

err on the side of caution and then I They're

like, oh so When can you get me the lines for

and I'm like, hold on. Who's this? and I'm like

and what what did I do and They're like, oh,

yeah, it's this thing from behind the voice actors.

I was trying to contact you on there. Well, and

then I looked and I wasn't contacted, but they

had decided to actually take the casting call

and actually like having written the script and

delivered the script to me to do the lines. And

then, of course, I was going to do it. And then

every week I've been so busy, I keep forgetting.

And then they're like, could I get those lines?

And I'm like, Yeah, I forgot sorry I've been

busy with stuff so And then the then the the

fun aspect was remembering how to do the voices

that I auditioned with oh jeez Because Everybody

knows I use my like Joker and Megatron voice

Beast Wars Megatron the most out of any of the

voices I use or like generation one scourge and

So this audio play has a Beast Wars Megatron

voice but a different name for the character

and then like another character but it's like

basically a Scourge's voice just deeper and I

got cast as those two as well as G1 Megatron

and I'm trying to do the G1 Megatron earlier

today and my throat has been so dry because the

temperature and then having to take Benadryl

because my allergies are flared up so I couldn't

do the voice very well It took me going back

to behind the voice actors comm to listening

to it and replicating my lines that I did To

remember how I did the voice And then I was able

to replicate them after that But it took me forever

to get the get the lines down and I recorded

them earlier, but it was just it was insane trying

to remember how to do that stuff, but um So yeah,

I had fun doing that and then I've been doing

a lot of the the altered gaming a couple of the

video shows on AlterGeek for the YouTube channel

and I've been having fun with doing the video

game stuff, kind of figuring out how the the

broadcasting features work. This particular program

like XSplit is the program I use. You can toggle

different screens on it by clicking a particular

button on this program so like I could setups

of my my intro video plays through the one button

or the Be right back offline, you know thing

displays on another and depending on how you

display you can have your your webcam play or

you can have the the video show up so I was doing

that with like Battlefield 4 and Battlefield

1 when I was playing the alpha and So every time

I do it I learned something new but at the same

time I have a couple of fails on the video while

I'm doing it So it's been an interesting experience

messing with that. Interesting learning curve,

huh? Yeah, interesting learning curve, and I'm

having fun kind of trying to do the YouTube thing.

I'm not doing it like, I mean, yeah, if I make

money off it, great, but if I don't, I don't.

I'm just doing it because it's fun and it's something

new to learn. And also I finished the follow

-up EDX org superhero class that uh, they took

groups of four of people that had done Characters

for previous classes and we basically took our

character and We had to create like a superhero

team Which was an interesting task to say the

least because you're working with people all

over the place and EDX is Forum software that

they use is very clunky. So we ended up switching

over to Facebook messages so that we could get

more instantaneous responses for whatever people

had time. Because it was too hard to follow up.

There was no notification of whether that forum

topic had been updated. It just had the time

that the original topic was created. So you had

to like toggle the drop down to see whatever

was underneath that that topic header, which

was kind of a pain So we did that and had to

create a new villain in a scenario and you had

people from all over the the world collaborating

together kind of thing so It was it was interesting

and obviously passed I get the certificate for

it and then go to get the certificate and they

go to tell me that They no longer do PDFs. They

do web certificates. What? And I was like, the

last three that I've taken, I got the PDF. And

they're like, yeah, we're phasing out the PDF

and going to web certificates. And I'm like,

so how am I supposed to download it? I said because

what if I don't just want it on because like

you can put it on your LinkedIn and you can put

them on like you print them out they're like

well you can do the the screenshot and save it

as an image or Do the print to PDF thing and

I'm like, yeah I know about those two but like

I shouldn't have to go through that to download

it Yeah, that's crazy so I was a little peeved

and I was going back and forth with their their

support about that, but I ended up doing both

methods, but it's not the same quality as if

it had been an original PDF. So I was a little

agitated about that. Other than that, I've been

having fun reading the feedback for the show.

Yep. Heck, I turned one of the feedback things

into a blog post from Epicurious where he asked...

Does being a geek now feel less special than

what it used to be? So that'll be part of my

from the desk of TF2 and Mike thing that I'm

gonna work up here in a little while I don't

know that being a geek ever felt like a good

thing Okay How did you say that he said some

of the effect of now - Well, because we had talked

about it last episode of a possible - Right,

we talked about it last episode, but what he

said was, in today's society, does it feel like

being a geek is less special than what it used

to be? Okay, what I meant was, I don't think

I ever felt special being a geek. Okay. That's

what I meant to say. Well, the reason why he

asked that is because everyone nowadays, you

can be a geek about anything, no matter who you

are. Well, I think that was the way it was back

then. In fact, there's a great video from the

guy that you don't really care for, MovieBob.

You brought it up. This is your fault. You brought

this up. Okay. Let me just state for the record.

I have no ill will towards movie Bob whatsoever.

I just don't like the guy's style. And if I don't

like his style, I'm not going to watch his videos.

And the last time I watched one of his videos

is when you pointed it out to me like four years

ago. Okay. We didn't need that explanation. I

just said you don't care for him. That's fine.

Anyways he had a great video and it was about

I'll see if I can dig it up somewhere but because

it was on Escapist but I don't think it's there

anymore anyways it was about how it was about

this exact topic how there's always been geeks

like if you're for example if you're a sports

fan and you're wearing a jersey and it has somebody

else's name on it you're cosplaying okay And

you're a geek of sports. Yeah, exactly. Geeking

out over sports statistics is the same thing

as geeking out over like the stats of like a

role playing character. Like it's all the same

thing. It's just. Different topic. Yeah, it's

so it's I don't think that the idea that I don't

really think the idea of geeking out about, you

know, I don't think the idea about everyone identifying

as a geek now is any different than it was. I

think it's just now people. kind of realize that

I think it's okay. I think it's kind of realized

that it's okay and I feel like it's always been

that way or at least I thought it has been because

like my dad geeks out about like woodworking

and metalwork and and and working out or working

out in his garage and you know I geek out about

you know video games and wearing my home for

home internet. you know, it's all varying degrees.

I don't think it ever really felt special. In

fact, I kind of thought that geek always was.

I mean, yeah, we've kind of taken it back, you

know, in the last, because, you know, the most

popular movies tend to be, quote unquote, geek

movies or geek driven movies now, you know, but.

I feel like so we kind of decided that we're

gonna kind of take it back and make it into something

that It wasn't but I always thought it the whole

like geek nerd dork I always felt like that kind

of stuff was just like derogatory like yeah,

it used to be yeah and and that's I think that's

part of his his question here is that he's saying

that Essentially and I could be wrong so he can

let me know in the comments. I'm sorry Whereas

30 years ago there were less geek voices. There

were still geek voices, but when we were kids,

there were less voices than there are now. I

just think that it's gotten more saturated now

because social media, everybody gets a voice.

Exactly. I wouldn't equate it that everybody's

a geek. I would almost equate it that it might

bother certain people because everything that

was... you know, like your superheroes, your

transformers and stuff like that. It was kind

of a niche thing back then that's become more

widespread is like the advancement of the pop

culture itself. I wonder how much that actually

I think if it's two things that you kind of put

together, but I don't think they kind of came

together the way I would have put them, which

is, you know, if you got back back then information

was. Drip fed to you through like a magazine

or going to comic book shop like you could yeah

you so it was really easy to kind of like identify

with someone like Like that guy in the comic

book shop with me, but now with it with with

not now I mean the internet's been around for

a long time But like with the rise of like Facebook

and and Twitter where you said everyone has a

voice all the last ten years Yeah, like the last

all of a sudden everyone You can like it's kind

of like uh the i don't know how i'm the base

example i'm trying to say here is the the wrong

way to say this is it's kind of like porn uh

there's something for everybody and so like if

you want to run a search just for like transformer

stuff and i'm not talking about like rule 34

or anything like that i'm just saying if you

want to run like if you Like if you're a Transformers

fan, you can sit at home and you can go to Transformers

sites and you can see someone that has a counter

opinion to you and you can just be a dick to

that person. And I think like, but you can interact

with people from behind a computer. It doesn't

have to. And I think because we spend so much

time. on a computer looking at that same stuff,

it's kind of like, that's all you see. I know

my Twitter feed is set up so that I really only

see moving and gaming news, because that's how

I want my stuff curated. So if that's all I see,

then I think, yeah, there's a lot of people out

there that, you know, whatever. But I just think

it has to do with how, because we're bombarded

with so much stuff, and there's so many options

for how you choose to curate the information

that you get. um I just think the internet's

made the world smaller and I think just like

there are more people willing to sit behind a

computer like a guy that you know might might

get online and and nerd out like on a on Transformers

uh forum or like a Ninja Turtles forum or something

like that or maybe they even listen to like uh

like you know like a video game podcast like

in their spare time maybe they don't tell their

friends about that maybe it's like still like

a closet thing you know what i'm saying like

because you can do it in the privacy of your

own home yeah um so it's i i still don't i don't

think i don't think like the jock that made fun

of you in high school is is gonna you know outwardly

like in person gonna call himself a geek you

know what i'm saying um for a nerd because that's

just not who he sees himself to be right but

in in the privacy of your own home on twitter

sure everyone's gonna be like yeah i'm a geek

i love those movies but i don't know it's i see

where i see where he's coming from i see where

steve's coming i see where you're coming from

like i just think that i don't know i never i

never really cared for that's the that that stuff

growing up it's like you you like what you like

what what does it matter You know, oh yeah, and

I and I agree with you I'm just you know, I was

just saying that that's if anything I think I

think nerd nerd culture geek cultures just become

more obnoxious It has Because I think you get

the people that are on the wrong maybe that's

what you mean by just it being less special because

you get the the gamer gate crap and Just people

being mean like I don't ever remember being mean

I guess I don't remember they're being mean geeks

I mean, I can honestly say, and I've watched

even some YouTubers say the same thing, like

going back and listening or watching your older

content and then seeing how much of a dick you

are compared to now. It bothers me to even see

it, but I'm not going to deny I did it. I just

call it like I've evolved by seeing all of it.

Because like and I think you're right there too

like people You get the lowest common denominator

that is the loudest voice Unfortunately, and

that's what everybody hears instead of having

the the people that are actually having a conversation

about the topic It's that old adage that you're

gonna hear more about the bad stuff than the

good stuff. Yeah. Yep So if it bleeds it leads

Okay, so Mike mentioned earlier about the transformer

stuff and I'm only bringing this up because it

falls into the context of what we've been talking

about Earlier this week as a joke I saw a news

story Revealing a transformers 5 character as

a joke my Comment post whatever you want to call

it on Facebook when sharing said article was

The Luke Skywalker Darth Vader thing no and that

more so not about the design that was more so

about my god Michael Bay now has his hands on

my favorite character and It just spewed this

whole long thing of everybody having a voice

on Facebook, which is fine. No problem with that

whatsoever You know and I one of my other friends

who's friends with another friend of mine We

used to actually podcast a lot together. We don't

so much anymore, but I Really don't wanna yeah,

it's not it's not him that I've found. It's the

friend of our the mutual friend of ours anyway

This mutual friend Where I I had said something

about I don't necessarily care for the designer

Why couldn't it have been it had a little bit

of a hint of what where hot rod came from and

then this guy's like The movies aren't g1 get

over it love and I'm like dude. Where are you

even getting that? I said one thing that wasn't

even a negative. I said the design is okay I

just wish it was different colors or something

like that and it ended up in this long back and

forth back and forth long story short We're now

no longer friends blah blah blah But it's just

one of those things where I get it the Bay verse

is never gonna be g1 Anything beyond g1 is never

gonna be g1 animated is never gonna get Another

season, you know, I understand that the Bay movies

I'm fine with them all as I'm asking for is just

one little thing To show where They came from

in those movies and they and you you you look

at the last cuz next year It'll be ten years

since that first Transformers film you look at

the last ten years of Bay verse Michael Bay slowly

has been listening to sort of in his own deluded

way listening to the fans on certain things So

I then made one other comment, and then I'll

leave this topic. I made one other comment. I'm

like, OK, so if the design is what the design

is, could they at least please either get Judd

Nelson or Dick Gaudier to voice the character?

Because that's who voiced him originally for

Hot Rod. And he's like, yeah, but this isn't

G1. Get over it. And this guy is acting like

I'm whining about the whole thing, and I'm not.

I'm just asking one simple question. I'm not

even complaining, I'm not even being negative

about it. I don't know, whatever. Doesn't really

matter. But it's just one of those things where

it's like, how can something where I'm asking

a simple question and not being negative go so

negatively wrong that we're no longer friends

at all anymore? It's just, oh God, felt like

I was back in high school all over again. As

for the rest of my week, I have been... Watching

through the first two seasons of Justice League

again since lawland records released their four

CD set of the The score for the first two seasons

of that animated classic God, I love that show

It's a good show yep, yep, and the music is amazing

Where to now Steve I Guess I'll bring up some

of the listener comments cool from the episode

last episode because last episode we kind of

went into Various comments and questions throughout

the history of altered geek and then There were

any I know I wasn't there but there weren't any

questions like pertaining to me were there but

I'm just asking But it's more like generic questions

Well, like there was Like we brought up arts

Justice League predictions since the cast is

now You know that kind of thing the cast is out

there the trailers out there. So we want that

trailer looks amazing I know right I know I I

was much more Enthusiastic about the Justice

League trailer than I ever was about Batman v

Superman. Have either of you seen the extended

cut yet? I'll bet maybe Superman. Yeah. No, what

did they change? This is not a knock against

the movie. I'm just prefacing this conversation.

I am only two -thirds of the way through the

movie, which means I'm two hours into it. I still

have an hour left. That's not because I couldn't

watch it. It's because I was too tired. I watched

it. I watched an hour, went to bed. The next

day I watched another hour, went to bed. I haven't

been able to get back to it. They they fleshed

out quite a in my opinion they fleshed out quite

a bit now remember I like the theatrical cut

All they did I think was make the theatrical

cut better the motivations behind like Superman

going after Batman and vice versa Are way more

apparent the subplot that Luther was like hatching

is Actually in the movie now like you can see

it long before it's actually kind of like Revealed

what he's doing. You can see like the his henchmen

moving in the backgrounds in certain situations

It just it flows a whole lot better than the

theatrical cut did there's more time to breathe

there's subtle differences in the Batman versus

Superman fight. It's I think it goes on for a

couple minutes longer Which, by the way, fantastic

editing for whoever decided to chop that movie

up because it still works when you put these

scenes back into it because it's interesting

to see what was removed and what was left in.

But I'm enjoying it. It's also the first movie

that I've seen in the new ultra high definition

HDR, which is the high dynamic range for color.

Okay, and it looks amazing I was watching it

in a darkened room and I probably shouldn't have

been because there's some stuff in there like

Eye -burning like bright coming off of the TV

like lightning like it looks like there's a couple

like instances with like lightning strikes and

it's like they A flash might have gone off might

as well have gone off in my face in a dark room

Like I could not see like the next several seconds

of the next scene because that was so bright

but it looks amazing and the color is definitely

there at least obviously with the HDR they probably

recolor time some stuff and it's a little bit

funnier the movie I think but I haven't seen

how it wraps up so I'm interested that's where

I'm kind of interested to see and the one scene

that I'm waiting to see and I have not been able

to find out I thought there was a deleted scene

maybe it's a deleted scene or something but There's

supposed to be a scene with Luther and a mother

box. And like I said, I'm two thirds of the way

through the movie and I haven't seen that scene

yet. So I don't know if it was deleted. They

had it on YouTube. See, I wonder if it was a

deleted scene or if it was never just perfect.

And I can't find it on the. I haven't watched

the deleted scenes on the disk. I think it's

a deleted scene. It's supposed to be where they

have Steppenwolf show up and use the mother box

and disappear. Man, that was going to be. I'm

going to go find that deleted scene because that's

one of the things I was looking forward to seeing

in the movie was the mother. I mean, outside

of the scene with in the video. Cyborg. Yeah.

But I was looking forward to seeing that as just

a more direct link to what's going on in that

video. But yeah, going back to the Justice League

trailer. Amazing. Like I've watched it like five

times. I've been watching it a bunch of times

and it's it's entertaining. It's light. You can

still see the the dark. you know within it but

it's still it's got enough wisecracks in there

and it's not you know you have the more normal

bruce wayne batman in a sense i'm i'm now i i

won't go all positive here and rainbows and sunsets

and butterflies i am a little miffed about the

flash costume but i am too um they also changed

the bat suit it's darker again it's all black

well that's fine i don't i mean that that doesn't

bother me like i i'm just like the i don't Don't

get him have the flash having an armored suit,

but I'll see how it plays out like I'm not gonna

write it off I'm just saying like that's the

only thing about the trailer that maybe coat

really Well, they're they're almost supposed

to be doing something in the kin kinship to injustice

to Well, no, not even in justice like how Tony

Stark goes to You know Peter Parker and helps

with his suit I get that we'll probably see two

different versions of it, but I'm just kind of

like I It looks like the screenshot that we saw

for the Power Rangers suits I was fine with it

for Power Rangers, but not for Flash. Yeah. Yeah,

but it looks pretty cool. I mean I'm really looking

forward to the movie and then the fact that you've

got Wonder Woman and Batman creating the Justice

League. And Wonder Woman looks great too. Yeah,

the Wonder Woman trailer was awesome. Yes, finally

a bright DC Universe movie finally a DC Universe

movie with actual color I think I got that out

of the I got that I was just like I didn't get

that from From Wonder Woman and they also said

that they said early on that it don't expect

it to be that bright of a movie It didn't look

that bright to me But it was it was more the

poster was definitely and it it was lighter tones

It it kind of reminded me of the first Captain

America movie. Yeah. Oh god. Don't say that Why?

What's wrong with First Avenger? Moving on. No,

come on. This is going to be... What's wrong

with First Avenger? Come on. It's not very good.

I can't stand the First Avenger or Thor because

those movies were... I don't want to start a

flame. I don't want to see comments that I'm

never going to read. I didn't care for either

one of those. Okay, the thing is, the first Avenger,

yeah, it's a solid, I guess I can say it's a

solid movie, but I find it almost unwatchable

and that's just me being a movie snob. Like,

it does not look good at all. There's so much

blue screen and green screen used in that movie

that it's just, it's laughable. And I feel like

obviously the that and Thor like they were both

they are both the first Avenger and Thor are

the two weakest movies in my opinion in the Marvel

lineup because they were like rushed through

production to get them done and introduce those

characters before Avengers hit the screen. agree

with you on that. And there's they didn't really

hit their stride till the second film. Yeah.

And so when they had time to breathe and those

characters were already like, OK, they're there.

Like, I mean, even the first Iron Man is more

watchable than the first than Captain America,

the first Avenger, because Iron Man had more

time put into it. The the other thing that kind

of and I also point out like there's one scene

in the end of that movie when they're in the

hangar chasing down the plane that just. It's

nails on a chalkboard to me because okay, so

There is a shot of Steve running through the

hangar a shot of Steve swinging on a rope And

then there is a shot of I think he's either are

I think he's in the car or still running to the

car Like there is no here's the shot of him jumping

to the rope swinging and dismounting into whatever

he's doing It's a shot of him running hard cut

swinging hard cut something and and I'm like

That doesn't work at all. What did I just see?

I understand that, yeah. It's more from a technical

thing than the movie itself. It's funny, I thought

it was well written for the first thing, and

I like the characters and everything that came

out of that. I understand why it was done, and

obviously done for as cheap as possible because

it's Marvel. And I will fight anyone that says

they don't do things for as cheap as possible

because they do. But they get results There's

no doubt. I'm not doubting that but they it's

Problem with the story that's that's why I know

but if not, it's the Captain America They told

the Captain America story. It's just the way

that the movie was shot and filmed and edited

in looks that makes me go Can't I can't watch

it? And then, of course, there's those two trailers.

I'm very pumped for the Justice League one and

the Wonder Woman. Then, of course, we get to

see our preview of the new Superman in Supergirl.

That first picture was wonky as get the hell

out. The suit looks interesting, but the guy

looks not... He doesn't look like Superman. Well,

it's not that he doesn't look like Superman.

My problem is he looks smaller than Oliver Queen

Green Arrow, because they had him side by side

with him in just a shot that somebody took. But

the guy is scrawny by comparison to... He's middle

of the ground between Grant Gustin and... Stephen

ML. Well, I think that's fine because Superman's

strength isn't necessarily like muscle bound

No, but I mean like he just looks awkwardly thin

instead of like a little bit built I haven't

seen that photo but the one photo that I did

see I was like it was the promotional still of

him next to Supergirl like this I'm pretty sure

it's the first one that most people saw yeah

and that he just looks all sorts of awkward in

that picture like other pictures I've seen like

from set photos and stuff like that. I'm like,

okay, that's Superman. The other thing looks

like a like a like a misprinted action figure.

Yeah, the promotional... And I saw a video of

it earlier of where he's fighting Matalo. Oh,

cool. Yeah, the promotional photo. She looks

fine. He looks like, you know... Photoshopped

all get out. Yeah, I mean, it looks like it looks

like somebody. OK, there was an article on on

Facebook. I don't know. earlier this week, or

might have been the end of last week, who knows,

two weeks ago, I don't know, about the dying

art of drawn movie posters versus Photoshop and

digital art and whatever else. And this image

reminds me of that, because it looks like somebody

took the time for her, and then they just scribbled

him in. That's what it looks like. the way he

is posed the way he is his his facial expression

just looks like he's so he doesn't know how to

do the cw face shot yeah the rest of them know

yeah have they have they um i've been out of

it for three weeks so forgive me have they addressed

how supergirl's gonna tie in with the rest of

the stuff they from what i gather they're gonna

have her cross over And it's gonna be a one by

one by one shot. She's gonna be in flash first

then arrow then in legends So flash is gonna

it's a four part episode between all four shows

So she's gonna the first half of her season is

gonna be in the original one And then the last

half is gonna be like a convergence I'm not quite

sure I'm thinking it's what I'm thinking is it's

gonna be midseason because They're saying that

flashpoint is going to be The first half of the

flash season three. Okay, and then there's gonna

be they're gonna reset back to the regular timeline

But what's gonna happen is there's gonna be repercussions.

So I'm thinking that in his jumping back to That's

what we talked about last time I was on Yeah,

it's gonna collapse back in on itself and then

all four shows me in the same universe is what

I'm thinking but I think the the big four crossover

isn't until December. So I think what Steve is

saying about the whole midseason. Yeah, it's

gonna be a midseason thing. Yeah, it's the midseason

finales for all for all shows. I'm just saying

what I'm saying is what we talked about the last

time I was on, which was my fan fiction where

they take the entire like every DC TV series.

You see the repercussions of Flashpoint. in every

in every series instead of just instead of aero

carrying on like like aero and and everything

else like all of a sudden maybe aero maybe aero

season 5 opens up and it's like light -hearted

Oliver Queen you know like like from smallville

Because because we're because now you're in the

Flashpoint universe, you know, so and then, of

course, one by one, slowly the pieces start coming

back together and then everything kind of rubber

bands back in on itself, which I for me, I said

it could have been like the season finale and

let the writers have like crazy fun for 22 episodes

on each series just to kind of cleanse everyone's

palate. But even doing like half a season, that

would be like f'd up for each show. That would

be kind of cool, too. I I actually saw something

it looked pretty funny, but it I could see this

if they ever decided to bring Batman albeit briefly

into the fold I Don't see it happening, but if

they did somebody had photoshopped a a shot of

Jensen Ackles as Batman Had him side by side

with the Superman, the Supergirl, Flash, Green

Arrow, and like the rest of the superheroes.

So it actually looked pretty funny, but I could

totally see him playing the part. Yeah. If it

was because it's all CW anyway. Yeah. So, OK.

You guys might know more about this than I do

or someone in the comments might know more about

this than all of us. But why is Superman allowed

on the small screen and not Batman? That's what

I want to know. But I like I said, I could. Wish

that they would honestly because I'm sick of

flake. I mean I get Gotham's not terrible. I

have enjoyed it, but I I'm not I'm probably not

gonna watch season 3 just because you can say

Gotham's terrible No one's gonna hate you. You

can still see who was actually good That's the

problem Season 1 was terrible season 1 but it

wasn't I could watch it towards the end of the

season season 2 was better season 3 I have no

hope for so It's kind of like watching arrow,

you know, yeah except arrows anchored by two

better shows. So Yeah I saw that Photoshop and

I thought it was funny and somebody actually

Photoshop Ackles next to like Ben Affleck, and

it almost looks like it could be a younger version

of that same Batman You know what the funny thing

is is he was originally Jason Teague on Smallville

So that having him as Batman on the CW if it

ever happens that would actually make sense Well,

he's already paid by the same network would you

have to say they couldn't yank him. Oh, absolutely

As far as no Batman on TV. It's something to

do as far as I can remember without looking anything

up from a few years ago, it's something to do

with the, I believe it's either the estate of

Bob Kane, or it's Warner Brothers, or it's DC,

or it's all of the above. It's DC, they just

don't want to have Batman on. Well, to a lesser

extent, it's also Warner Brothers, since that's

essentially DC's parent company, where they just

don't... Feel like Batman will like actually

having bat a Batman on television will work I

think what they're scared of is what happened,

you know back in the 60s and hey, it's gonna

be campy And of course, it's not we live in an

age where everything is dark now. It's not gonna

be campy It's not gonna be Adam West Batman,

you know, I think it is I think it's because

Batman's the only franchise that Warner Brothers

has in the DC lineup that makes them any money

I Think so That very much could be it. But yeah,

I mean, I'm stoked for the DC television stuff.

I'm so like, when are they gonna get like, these

shows are only, we've only got a month or so,

well about two months or so before they actually

debut. on October 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. So

we got a Flash trailer, we got an Arrow trailer,

we got a Legends trailer. When are we getting

a Supergirl trailer, dammit? Come on, now. I

would imagine... I won't see one. Yeah. Actually,

you know what they're... Actually, I think they're

waiting... Isn't the CW airing every Supergirl

episode every Monday up to... The release? Yeah.

They're gonna do double episodes every Monday

night. I wonder if it's gonna come like right

before that starts or or after that or after

that's over or something like so not to uh I

don't know mud it in the water I guess or I don't

know. Yeah that could be cool. I'm still wondering

what the whole plan is gonna be for CW and streaming

stuff honestly with these superhero shows because

well What it is is that the after the seasons

ended then they're gonna put the full season

right at the end of the season finale They're

gonna put it all on Netflix. Okay, so they're

not gonna be on Hulu anymore. No, no That what

they're gonna do is right after the season finale

here. Yeah, I knew that next day. It's gonna

be on Netflix I knew I knew that is it know if

it was gonna be on Hulu the next day. No, they

signed an exclusivity deal just like Disney did

with Netflix. Yeah, the Hulu deal is essentially

dead at this point So but back to torrenting

them. Yep kind of sucks Yeah, I yeah, that's

how I have to get my TV shows. So yeah Because

I don't have DVR Actually, I might I might jump

at a TV package No, I mean I have local channels,

I just don't I'm never on Like I can't watch

the TV because usually I have stuff around the

house to do but here's the here's the crazy thing

I can get I can get the same speed internet I

have and my local channels in HD So really the

only channels that matter Because everything

else is streaming The local channels in HD with

a DVR for like a hundred bucks So I might do

that Anyways, whatever But yeah, I'm looking

forward to when they they do it I just I'm waiting

for the shows to come back now at this point.

Mm -hmm What are your guys thoughts? I don't

know if you've Watched or if you've heard anything

on suicide squad. Oh boy suicide squad I haven't

read I've seen some of the stuff going around.

I haven't read any of it. I I Won't read any

of it until after I see the movie what did you

plan on seeing this weekend? so I If you guys

want to talk about what you've seen and what

I that's fine I read one review and it was a

pretty negative review. I mean the guy pointed

out some interesting things obviously This is

not and this was never going to be the BTIS Harley

version gonna be the Over sexualized new 52 version

of her which is fine. Whatever. That's what they

want. You know, as we all know sex sells But

when you can't tell me the original Harley wasn't

sex selling to She was innuendo after innuendo.

She was innuendo, but she was never... She didn't

flaunt the part, she just talked about it. Yeah,

exactly. Animations can be subtle too. She was

sexualized from the get -go. They mentored to

be that way because they saw the actual actress

on a soap opera dressed like a clown and trying

to be sexy. Mean the movie in itself. I'm still

gonna see eventually I probably won't see it

in theaters, but I'll see it when it hits Netflix

or whatever But I don't know I think my overall

thoughts on it just on the movie in general from

what I've seen From the trailers and the clips

and all that is it looks a hell of a lot more

fun than BBS was But I never thought that could

be just the first 20 minutes of the movie the

rest of the movie could suck who knows I never

thought Batman vs Superman was gonna be fun.

I thought it was gonna be good I didn't think

it's gonna be like a fun rip -roaring ride though.

I don't know I just I don't I feel like there's

a I Feel like it doesn't matter what DC does

like I think I'm very hesitant to say conspiracy,

because I haven't seen the movie yet. So people

could be right. It could be bad. But I was also

one of the ones like Batman v Superman. So whatever.

I like DC's movies. And I like the Marvel stuff,

because they're two very different things. But

I feel like if it doesn't look and feel like

a Marvel movie, it's just going to get slammed.

And I don't feel like DC needs to do that. Plus

the one thing I've seen the one headline I've

seen was the studio getting involved with the

whole business I didn't I didn't dive into it.

It was like a YouTube video It was like it was

like someone like it was like some flame grabbing

headline which was like did studio meddling ruin

Suicide Squad Which it very well could have because

they made a lot of they did reshoots on it like

after Batman v Superman hit so I Mean, we'll

never know the full story But it looks fun. That's

all I want out of it. I just want it to be fun.

I don't care what whatever else it is. It just

looks like fun. Yep. So. Absolutely. Yeah, I

feel like the same thing happens anyway with

DC. I personally don't. I personally don't care

to see Suicide Squad. And it's more so because

I just don't care for the premise and the villains.

I expected, I knew I was gonna go in liking BBS,

regardless. I mean, yeah, there were some poorly

written areas, but overall I enjoyed the film.

But I didn't want it to look like a Marvel film.

And I feel like the Marvel films have like this

cookie cutter element to them now. At least the

ones that are gonna tie back into the Avengers

films. Yeah, because like Guardians didn't feel

like that and we have yet to see the second film

and Doctor Strange looks different too. So The

rest of them though, I kind of knew what I was

getting into and like I saw Civil War it was

good But it wasn't like this spectacular thing

that everybody was like clamoring over It basically

felt like I was watching the same movie as BVS.

It was just different color palette and And a

lot less emo -ness. Sorry, there's so much emo

in VHS. Yeah, but the extended cut, the reason

for that, what comes across as emo, I think,

in the theatrical cut is because of their brooding,

the way it's cut, it just looks like they're

brooding for brooding sake. And the extended

cut, in my opinion, it remedies that. That's

not the... They're not brooding just for brooding

sake in the direct in the extended cut There's

there's reasons like the the whole conspiracy

with like the desert and like there's scenes

where Bruce is not Bruce Clark is actually investigating

the Batman. Oh Okay, so time and make people

actually go see the movie and cut the parts of

the plot that make any damn sense out of the

movie, they took all the Clark investigating

stuff out. Yes. Well, they kind of insinuated

it anyway. They did, but not like, they, like,

Clark, like, it was, I think there's only like

one or two scenes in the theatrical cut, and

the only prominent one I can remember is the

one where Laurence Fishburne is like, nobody

cares about Clark, can't take it out of the bat.

That's like it. And then it's just like all of

a sudden, like everyone's just and Clark's already

like moody, but there's like there were way more

scene shot where like Clark goes to that den

that the bat the Batman was at. Yeah. In the

beginning, he goes to that crime scene and he

investigates the crime scene and he follows up

with a number of different. things like while

he's researching batman right the guy that goes

to prison uh the whole thing like those pictures

that were like given to him but the guy that

was executed in prison like that is a whole storyline

that was like deleted from the movie and it's

all back in there um like clark talks to the

widow like the the guy that was killed in jail

and that's like one of the things he's like I'm

I can stop this so I'm going to stop this he

doesn't know that you know bruises Batman until

he actually like confronts him but there's definitely

like footage in there of him being like I can

stop this so I'm going to stop it can you guys

believe it's been three years of the show the

podcast and we're still talking about this I

don't think it'd be an altered geek if we weren't

talking about it since you know since The show

was founded on that. Yeah. But I mean, I, I,

I, I, I understand why people didn't like it.

I understand not wanting to give it like a second

shake or whatever. And that's fine. I just don't

have time to argue with people that do that.

Don't like it. Like, I'll just like, you don't

like it. OK, that's fine. We don't have to talk

about it because I don't feel like arguing my

point either, because it's kind of like banging

your head against a brick wall. Yeah. This day

and age before I liked everything to do with

Ben Affleck and Batman and Bruce Wayne and everything

else I just felt the story was too disjointed.

That's all the the weakest part but also one

of like the coolest parts is The one that got

like the meme is the Martha stuff Because it

never occurred to me that both their parents

their moms Yeah, it didn't occur to me until

I saw that image on Facebook where the two of

them are facing off somebody captioned under

it Martha is the safe word and I'm like Martha

can't Martha. Oh, yeah Somebody wasn't being

too creative that day I just well it was two

different creators at two different times, right?

I understand that yeah, but I I never even realized

that I didn't even realize that when I was watching

the movie for the first time but like I don't

know if it's like I don't know if it's been half

like in that mech suit when the revelation hits

him or But that scene even in the extended cut

that scene still doesn't look right. Where did

you say that name? Especially, especially since

that fight goes on a lot longer in the extended

cut and is a little more brutal, like not bloodier,

but just a little more brutal. And so it's like,

and then you get to that part, you're like, hmm.

So let me ask you what the extended cut is, because

as everybody knows, the extended cut is rated

R. How much actual blood, guts, and gore is in

the Extended versus the Theatrical? I had to

watch the opening again in the desert. There's

way more stuff going on in the desert, especially

with people actually getting shot. And I think

there's not blood splatter, but red mist, like

blood mist from the bullets. Other than that,

I haven't seen too much of anything other than

like like certain things go on a little longer

than others Like I said, the Batman vs Superman

fight actually goes on a little bit longer. I

haven't gotten I've stopped right before Doomsday

gets let loose. That's where I've stopped So

I get to watch from there to the end of the movie

and there's still from that point in the Ascent

cut There's still like 45 -50 minutes left in

the movie Wow, so I still have yet to watch that

chunk of it. So I don't know if like things get

kind of messy in there But I really think it

just it just went I think things just went on

a little little bit longer and and scenes especially

like the I Think there might have been there's

actually a stab it like they show you the guy

dying in jail with the bat marker I mean it's

not it's not like anything that you probably

wouldn't see like on arrow except that it looked

it's not any different than when Roy got stabbed

on arrow except it's through a cinematic lens

that is the grit of Batman v Superman so it's

kind of like okay I guess that makes sense so

I don't know it's nothing that I mean they probably

could have put it in the theater as PG -13 I

just feel like there's no way they would have

put a three hour movie in there, which is kind

of a bummer because I feel like there was a great

article I saw that it was about like, why don't

Zack Snyder's director's cuts ever get released

in the theater? Because they tend to be a lot

better than his theatrical cuts. So I don't know.

But yeah, I don't know. If you liked it, give

the extended cut a look because they fill in

a whole lot of gaps. Good to know. So is there

anything you guys want to bring up before we

go for this massive three -year episode 150 No,

not really I don't think so I think we're about

there Yeah, I think I'm I'm set as well hold

off on some other stuff Yeah Well anyways, so

yeah, that about rounds it out then. We will

be taking a brief hiatus for the remainder of

the month just because I'm going on vacation

and I need a break. But I will be on game streaming

from now until the end of the month, just kind

of periodically. Might do more with the YouTube

channel, just kind of depends on what's going

on. But I'd like to point out before we leave,

and I'll have Steve put the link in the show

My Generation and I recorded with all of our

mutual friend, the king geek, Joe Reed. King

geek is what Danner called him on Facebook. We

recorded a thing of why, what makes us the geeks

we are. So that was a pretty cool hour or so.

conversation so if anyone wants to go check that

out you can but yeah i'm kind of i don't know

i'm kind of almost winding down early this year

for podcasts i'm cutting back on a lot of stuff

uh more about that in another time but uh but

yeah alter geek three years yay first okay outside

of alternate numbering first GCRN podcast to

ever reach the 150 episode mark Wouldn't wouldn't

actually three years be 156 Well there was that

time that Steve threw the numbering out so What

numbering the episode numbering on the posts?

Anyway, I don't know not no. This is actually

episode 150. Oh, okay It's been about 50 episodes

a year because I usually skip about two weeks

throughout the year, okay, okay? So and then

there's some weeks where I might skip an extra

week, but I might double up episodes that week

so So yeah, it breaks out right all right so

But yeah, so if there's any comments questions

suggestions or things you'd like to see us cover,

please leave feedback on the episode post and

Of course, I will hold on to it and save it for

when we return. Oh, sorry. If anyone has any

kind of, if there's any theater geeks or nerds

out there, movie theater geeks or nerds that

have any questions that I could vaguely answer,

I can potentially do that for you, vaguely answer

those questions. So I get myself in trouble.

So if you guys have any questions about various

different... systems and how they work and all

that stuff with movies and movie theaters. You

can ask those too. So yeah, do that too. So until

next time, get altered, get geeky with the Altered

Geeks.