Seven Years of GCRN: Website Migration, 2,000+ Episodes, and Network Operations

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though... Courage Hello and welcome to Altered

Geek Unlimited. I'm your host Steve Megatron

Phillips and joining me this week are TfU and

Mike And Doug Abel from Talking About My Generation.

Welcome aboard. So what's up, guys? We're going

to need a bigger boat. It's what she said. Yeah,

146 episodes in a row. I was going to say I have

summer vacation, but. That's 104 days. Yeah,

no, no, no, no, 146, no. 146 episodes. Wait,

I'm 147? No, we've got a whole bunch of stuff

going on. As we're recording this, we are about

seven hours and 40 minutes away from the brand

new launch of the GCRN's website, which we will

talk about later in this podcast. I, as Steve

and Doug have said, have been wasting my summer

away with 104 days, 104 podcasts, doing the Phineas

and Ferb show with our good buddy Pecan Court

Michael. Pecan Court Michael. My pants are full.

I don't want to ask what's going on with that.

Yeah. Take a drink already. As you were talking

about Pecan Court Michael. Yeah, no, that's not

it. Well, see, that's the funny thing is we have...

Okay, so a little bit of background. And it's

only because the three of us haven't recorded

in a long time. So I know Steve hates doing housekeeping

now, but anyway. Sometimes, sometimes. When we

started the podcast organization without a cool

acronym, which is the Phineas and Ferb Review

Show here on the GeekCast Radio Network, we had

the... I originally told him that the podcast

was going to be explicit. He said, really? This

is a kids show. I said, yeah, but it's tagged

explicit and not so much for F -bombs and S -bombs

and A -bombs and T and A -bombs and whatever

else you want to call it. It's more so for the

innuendo. It's more so for the innuendo. Because

he and I, when he and I, and Steve knows this,

Steve's recorded with us. A lot in the past,

obviously. We did, you know, the Beast Wars,

Beast Machines, the Beast of the Beast podcast,

and that was all kinds of innuendo. So, on the

Phineas and Ferb show, what we've come up with

now is the innuendo and the innuendonts. And

a lot of what we end up saying is innuendonts.

It's funny, it's hilarious. We have curbed saying

F -U -C -K by replacing it with F -E -R -B. So

it's instead of what the, it's what the Ferb.

Okay. So let's get the Ferb out of here already.

That kind of stuff. So that's what's going on

there. The pull bag we just wrapped a huge, huge

month. uh... in june here because june's second

twenty sixteen it took them twenty five years

to get bop and rock on the screen but bop b -bop

and rocksteady are on the screen now in tmnt

out of the shadows and in idw's infinite wisdom

they said hey guess what there's five wednesdays

in june we're gonna have a five issue miniseries

dealing with Bebop and Rocksteady, and it's called

Bebop and Rocksteady Destroy Everything. And

it's basically what would happen if Bebop and

Rocksteady got their hands on Delorians. Not

the Delorian, but multiple versions of the Delor

- like, all three of them. Oh, Jesus. Except

they use the Time Scepter from, like, Turtles

3. from the Turtles 3 movie. Okay. So there's

multiple time scepters all over the places in

this five issue mini series. At one point we

end up with so many different versions of mutated

and unmutated bebop and rocksteady like pre and

post mutation. It's just friggin crazy but it

was a blast to read. It was a blast to talk about.

Joe Reed and I over there have a blast talking

about the Turtles stuff and it's pretty fun.

Is a pretty fun series. So that's that's pretty

much all that I've really been doing I've released

a couple of M wires here and there the last two

months or so Steve and I did Kingsman the Secret

Service and then Dan movie role Dan and I did

the Shawshank Redemption Tooncast beyond. Let's

see. We did my buddy Eduardo formerly of mark

who 42 Did x -men TAS season one? the old 92

shows so that's pretty much what's going on with

me other than helping doug uh rebrand and rebirth

his own podcast yes there will be a rebirth that

canal was long yeah that's what she said so what

what have you been up to steve because you've

been you know running around like a chicken with

its head cut off this week um Well, I rebuilt,

well, actually I've moved, I guess I'll get into

it now. I've moved almost every website that

I run, order the new host. I have one left besides

GCRN. GCRN has been actually on there longer

than any of them. And when I say that, I mean,

I've had the site there forever. I just haven't

had it completed and it's still not going to

be complete when it goes up. Only... Only in

the capacity of the back -end podcasts, like

when you listen to them on the players. That's

about the only thing I have left to get up on

the new site. If you're listening on iTunes,

you're listening to Stitcher or Blog Talk Radio,

everything's there. There's nothing, that'll

be uninterrupted. As far as the website's concerned,

that's that that's gonna be a gradual um oh yeah

that's a huge I mean we've got seven years of

content that's a huge undertaking to transfer

yeah that's no kidding no I'm not sitting here

trying to state the obvious that you already

know this but I'm just saying to everybody else

like you know we've got over Two thousand podcasts

in seven years. Yeah, that was that was mostly

why it's taking so long It's cuz I write some

of them. I have to download and back up anyhow

As far as the newer content the older content

I have all backed up on a drive so it's a matter

of getting it all back on there, but I have over

a hundred gigs of MP3 is to upload so it's not

been a fun process And then I was working on

This Week in Geek, finally got their transfer

done, figured out a way of copying the site over

a lot faster than having to rebuild and import

everything. I found a duplicator tool that allowed

me to literally, I make the duplicate. I create

the database and I create the folder on the other

domain and then I moved it. And then I had to

do it once more to get it so that I could transfer

the .com over. So it's been a complicated process

that I've been going through the last week and

a half. And of course setting up the emails again

and then setting up the only .com, like GeekCast

Radio, it'll all function properly. It's just,

it's a lot of work. Doug function properly. Yes,

it's functioning properly. It's a doofenshmirtz

thing. Yes Oh God oh I can't I can't erase the

image of Megan Fox Megan Fox's head imposed on

Starscream now. Oh dear lord Well, there was

a video that somebody put out. I had it on Facebook

somewhere. I'll have to see if I can find it.

There was a video of the the death of Optimus

Prime. The whole battle. The Autobot Decepticon

battle from Transformers the movie. And this

person superimposed all of the Bay people heads

onto the Transformers. So instead of Megatron,

it's Michael Bayatron. And it's just a picture

of his head. where Megatron's head should be.

Yeah, it was... It was a nightmare. Total nightmare

fuel. I thought he was made of stoner stuff.

But I was mistaken. Why throw away your life

so recklessly? Too late. Yeah, that was a pretty

funny video. The other thing that... I don't

know if you have any questions you want me to

answer on the website, but... You mean me? Yeah.

Not on air, no. We can deal with that all off

air. Well, okay. Well, because by the time this

goes up, the listeners should be able to see

the website. Oh, they'll be able to see it because

it's going to be going live before this podcast

ends. Well, yeah. So we have a whole new layout

now in one of our teaser images over the last

week this week. I had said one of the teaser

images is the new featured banner, which consists

of two images, but it slides over four different

sections. And I said it's going to be 95 % written

content and 5 % podcasts because the way we have

the new website, uh, listed or the way we have

it set up is the podcasts all have their own

special area. Core shows have their own special

area. We've got AGU. Cinema Geeks, GCR, M -Wire,

Pullbag, Remote Control, Talking in Circles,

and Two Casts Beyond. I did say Pullbag, right?

I don't know, whatever, anyway. And then below

that, we have the review podcast. So we have

All Things Transformers, Cyber Dragon Ball, Command

Center, Mayhem Mikes, Pixels in the Animation,

Podcaster Meets World, Powers of Grayskull, and

Palka. And each of those, you can roll over,

and it goes, once you click them, They basically

give you the most recent one and then four other

top most recently released. So I love that about

it. With the website, this was a theme that,

and there are multiple versions of the theme.

This is the, should we say that this is the first

one we actually have now? Or no? I think people

get the gist of it. Yeah. This one's all ours

at this point. Steve can pretty much customize

it to the max, to quote Save by the Bell. I originally

found this theme looking through, what is it,

ThemeForest or whatever the hell it is. Yeah,

that's kind of my go -to for new WordPress. Right,

so because we are a WordPress -based website

and all that. I went through various versions

and I looked at different, this theme that we

bought, do you remember off the top of your head

what it's called? This one? Yeah. It's like...

Technical difficulties. Let's move on, shall

we? Alright, so this theme that we have now...

Chill news. Chill news, okay. I... Looked through

it because for me. I'm a vision on a website.

I'm a very visual person because without Glasses,

I have 2 ,200 vision in both eyes. I'm technically

considered legally blind even though I'm not

blind I can actually it's just I have a problem

with distance stuff, but anyway I was looking

for something that I would be able to see everything

very clearly and very you know easily without

having to zoom into 150 % on my browser here.

So we looked through various versions of this

theme and we picked one and we wanted to highlight.

We're going to start highlighting more written

content. That's why I said earlier the featured

banners that you're going to see. It's not gonna

be all podcasts anymore. It's gonna be 95 % written

5 % podcast It's gonna be mostly for the purposes

of staying up to date with content So like anything

that's in kind of in in the the now of geekdom

will show up at that point So you'll you'll definitely

be able to You'll definitely be able to kind

of keep up with what what's going on instead

of having to stare at the same Podcasts that

release on the same days every week Yeah, absolutely

the other thing about the new site is that There's

a whole lot of cool features We have a functioning

because I believe it was our good friend Tim

Silver's that pointed out at one point to us

on the current before the current site was was

taken down to make room for this new site. The

rolling menu bar, Steve loves this, and I love

it too, it's awesome. Our actual menu bar, as

you scroll down, will roll through and it'll

stay on the top of the thing. I absolutely love

this. The other sections that I love, the one

that I really enjoy, that i found is the tag

cloud at the very bottom of the website we have

this new thing called the tag cloud you click

on any tag uh okay i'm i'm right now i'm going

to click on the he -man tag all right so that's

going to take me to any and all posts that are

on the website dealing with he -man uh whether

it be the pull bag stuff whether it be the power

of grace powers of greyskull stuff Whether it

be old reviews that kind of thing, you know So

that's gonna be really cool and it's gonna be

easier We do still have a search bar But I think

it's gonna be easier using the tag cloud that

it is gonna be using a search bar Anything else

you want to say before we? Um, I mean it's it's

gonna have a lot of features that are very similar

to what people already recognize from the site

But again the menus in the main page will probably

the biggest differences the drop -downs will

feature More the different types of content a

lot of the written stuff is gonna be highlighted

more So the podcast everybody knows we do the

podcast. So those are kind of they'll be there

It's gonna be kind of I don't know Some of the

some of the aspects are like a mix of now and

a mix of like when we went back to the original

site Yeah, and then you know that we've got the

the media roulette which goes through like written

stuff of tune TV comics and movies And the sidebar

which is both of the comments. I also added something

new earlier It's the IMDB thing so I can put

like coming soon movies that are in the sidebar

I may make a actual section for that rather than

the sidebar Oh, cool. I did that. I like it as

the sidebar. Yeah, I might move some of this

stuff from the sidebar over to the middle. But

yeah, I was toying around with that and I was

like, you know, it'd be kind of cool to know

which movies are coming out next month that are

like the highest profile movies. So I was like,

oh, I'll put that in there. So especially since

like Ghostbusters and track have been featured

prominently on this podcast in recent and I'm

sure some of the others on the network so Sembusters

is the word is the most hated thing on YouTube.

I think people are eating crow when that comes

out. That's just me personally What are your

opinions on it Mean readers digest Well, I thought

it was gonna be good at first and Don't get me

wrong. I have no problem whatsoever with having

four females playing lead characters That's not

my issue at all my issue was after I sat in the

theater this past weekend and saw the new trailer

and They have Melissa McCarthy riding around

Like she's holding on to some bucking bronco

while trying to shoot the proton pack and then

she immediately goes on with the gloves later

on, and you see her throwing a ball of plasma

or proton, whatever it is, and it starts bouncing

around, and as soon as I saw it leave her hand,

I go, it's gonna ricochet and it's gonna come

back and it's gonna scare the crap out of them,

like it's gonna hit them. And I went, it's slapstick.

They went slapstick with the fucking movie. Excuse

me. Yeah, yeah, they did they like okay? So the

first movie is it is it is somewhat slapstick

the the second movie is is a little bit more

slapstick even the first movie But this one because

of who these comedians are They went for this

I think more for McCarthy than any of the other

three They went full -on slap to slap stick because

that's all she knows how to do She can't act

her way out of a paper frigging bag in my opinion.

Yeah You know like you I don't mind that it's

females. I don't care. I just think it's the

wrong four women It could have been any other

four women in Hollywood except these funny thing

is You say that, but the original cast was all

Saturday Night Live alumni, and this is no different.

Are these the only four women that Saturday Night

Live has had in the past 40 years? No. Are these

the only four women in the past five years that

Saturday Night Live has had? Probably not. Probably.

You know, I would love to have seen Molly Shannon

in this or, you know, Sherri O'Terry. Okay, what's

her name Maya Rudolph I would love to see her

in this film drop her in I don't care but Melissa

McCarthy, are you freaking kidding me? Not a

fan. Yeah, I can't say I just can't stand her

comedy. I don't mind hers But the thing I don't

like about it is a lot of the time when they

write her they make her like very obnoxious and

They make her And it's fine. I'm not policing

you guys, but I've kind of gotten to this point

now where if the movie's dropping more than like

five f -bombs, I don't particularly care to watch

the rest of it anymore. Because in this regard,

a lot of her movies are like watching Adam Sandler

films at this point in time. Yeah, and and people

are gonna probably be like who is different?

But it's not really all that much because Adam

Sandler's doing the same formula and it's not

working for him Cursing is cursing. I mean Adam

Sandler's been cursing for the last 20 years.

No, he hasn't. See that's the thing. He recently

ever since that John Apatow movie Yeah, that

was the tipping bird or tipping of the iceberg

there because after that He's done every pretty

much every movie since then He's he's sworn like

up and down like on any character he plays especially

like Ridiculous 6 was kind of That wasn't it

was exact now. Yeah, I know I'm opening that

camera where he's He's I would equate him to

some of the stuff Melissa McCarthy's done like

in that film, but uh That film was a waste of

time. Yes, great granted. I wanted to see how

bad it was That's the only reason I watched it

same thing with the do -over that Film actually

wasn't that bad if you consider it as an action

film like an action comedy It was actually really

good as far as that the fact that the only thing

that makes it so I don't care for it is The blatant

nudity that they were throwing on the screen

and then the fact that every other word out Adam

Sandler's mouth was like something vulgar If

they would have changed the dialogue on his character

and made it just like his goofy like sarcastic

You know like he used to do And then kind of

thrown in, you know the same aspects because

I edited part of the movie just to see if I could

do it and I took out all the nudity scenes all

of the Visual vulgarities and then so that cut

about 30 minutes off the movie and Thereabouts

and then I was trying to edit all the the language

out. Well, it isn't just swearing. He's dropping

everything. He's trying way too hard to get an

audience for this. That's a sad thing about certain

people in Hollywood that we have grown up with

and grown to love. We love Wedding Singer, Waterboy,

Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison. We all love those

films. I think he started trailing off after

Click. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah last good movie

and then after that it went downhill Yeah, I

mean come on. We have the cobbler does it get

any worse than that? Yeah, the cobbler wasn't

actually that bad I would watch that again over

watching some of his other stuff that came out

Yeah, that actually had a good premise and they

had Dustin Hoffman in it. So Let's see what I'm

saying is you know someone that you know Sandler

was a Saturday Night Live personality. He was

on there a long time. The problem with him, and

I've discovered this over the years, is he's

got the same writers that wrote his skits on

Saturday Night Live. And they're still writing

his movies. And those guys are so far out of

touch that they're no longer relevant anymore.

And so what they're writing doesn't apply anymore.

And that's why people hate it so much. It's not

necessarily Sandler. And it goes back to a lot

of the time, the writing and... Either like the

person or you don't I mean that's and Melissa

McCarthy for me like I don't mind her but Paul

Feig has directed her on numerous occasions and

writes her in the same exact parts and And so

she's playing the same character on every movie

she does Yeah, and that's not cool and what I

was trying to say about Sandler though is you

know He he started out on this really really

high curve You know, with all those movies I

mentioned a minute ago. And he's now slowly,

he's in a slow, steady skid towards a cliff because

he just, he essentially is the Peter Pan of the

90s. He never frigging grew up. You want to know

the funny thing about him though is Netflix paid

him because, to do these films, because he still

has the most watched films out of any particular

actor on Netflix. And so for him, it's a cash

grab to go on vacation. That's how his movies

have been over the last 10, 12 years, because

any time he wants to go on vacation somewhere,

he's like, oh, I'm going to shoot a movie here

and then make the plot there. That way I can

write it off in taxes. Exactly. And he can make

the studio pay for his vacation. So, I mean,

there's that. And then, you know, the fact that

He just, he doesn't evolve. He does the same

shtick and doesn't care if it sucks or not. Yeah.

I, I, like you said a second ago, Steve, I have

not, uh, I really haven't watched, uh, an Adam

Sandler movie since, well, like you said, click.

I mean, really, you know, once you have the Hoff,

you... It's kind of like Jeff Dunham and Peanut.

Once you go purple, you never go back. Once you

have the Hoff, you can never. There's just no

coming back from that. So yeah, Adam Sandler.

I'm super excited for everybody to see the new

GCRN thing, the new site and all that. It's going

to be so fun for everybody. I think you're going

to hear a familiar sound from the 90s, and then

after that, we're going to come back and we're

going to watch Zordon break bad. Help him. Open

a communications channel to the Power Rangers.

And here we go. Jumping into one of the fun topics

of the night is, of course, Breaking Bad himself.

Bryan Cranston is playing Zordon in the new Power

Rangers movie. The big blue head is back Yeah,

they put his giant bald head in the jar liquid

Yeah, they kind of did I mean I don't like I

Think I said this last week or I might have said

this somewhere else on some other podcast But

I think I said this last week when we did ghost

track Until I see the trailer for the new Power

Rangers movie None of the news announcements

or the reveals of the cat. I mean, yeah We had

the episode a while back where we talked about

the Iron Rangers because the suits Looks like

Tony Stark created the Power Rangers essentially

Because they all look like Iron Man suits, you

know, I you know, I made that comment but until

I actually see a minute and a half two minute

trailer not a teaser not a 30 second thing not

just one poster until i see an actual trailer

i'm not making any judgments on this movie until

i can actually see it seeing cast photos of you

know Queen Mira, oh I'm sorry, Rita Raposa. Seeing

Aquaman's wife in this movie or something like

that, in a picture, that really makes no sense.

It doesn't really give me any sense of what the

movie is gonna be about. Hey, Bryan Cranston

as Zordon, it's just one other role that he's

gonna add to his belt and that's great because

technically for him it's coming full circle because

he used to be a big blue villain in the old show.

I'm good with it Yeah, I'm kind of good with

it as well. I I feel the same thing as you do

Mike in that I don't want to make any judgments

and part of it was because as I got older watching

watching Power Rangers I Felt like it kind of

went downhill as they start getting into some

of the more ludicrous stories and You know, I'm

hoping that this isn't gonna be just completely

goofball and then it's actually gonna be Don't

know I guess a little bit more serious like how

we're seeing some of the more I Don't want it

to be gritty because I'm tired of gritty. Look

at what happened with Batman versus Superman.

We don't want that for this Yeah, we love you

man, but seriously that This show has been running

on BVS. This show started with BVS. So Yeah,

we're we're done with and I say this all the

time and everyone I know the entire listening

audience is gonna cringe We're done with the

BS that is BVS. It may have given altered geek

its launch But we're past it, but you're right.

There are a lot of dark gritty films right now.

I Don't want to see something. I want to see

something that homage is the old show. I want

to see something in tune with that old 95 film

Yeah, I can agree to that I I want to see something

that homage is the old show that gives us little

nods but at the same time tells a new story especially

if the Rangers are gonna be new because I don't

think I Don't think they've just gotten new actors

to play Jason Trini Kimberly Zach Billy, you

know I don't I don't think that's it. I think

they've gotten new actors to be a you know Whole

new cast to be a whole new set of characters

and and all that and it'd be great if any of

the old ones Show up as cameos. That's fine Well,

but really let like Steve said, you know something

in the vein of the original film would be kind

of cool Well to kind of frame off of that cameos

Mike you and I already talked about this but

yeah, I would love to see Okay, so we were talking

about this on Facebook And there's supposed did

you say there was rumors out there or something?

What did you say? I don't even remember now I

said there were rumors that they were going to

have possibly Vulcan skull and I said And I said

I said back to you I said only if they are the

Vulcan skull, right? Not new actors that play

those character names. If you're gonna put Bulk

and Skull in there, you have to get Paul Schreier

and Jason Narvey. Now, if you're gonna have Bulk

and Skull -like characters, or have their descendants

like they did in Samurai if you watch it long

enough... even if you watch it from the beginning,

the kid that shows up to be Bulk's sidekick in

Power Rangers Samurai is... God, I don't even

remember the kids. He's essentially Skull's son,

Bulk's nephew. And by the end of the series,

Skull does eventually show up, and that scene

was amazing and awesome. It was the best part

of Samurai, in my personal opinion. But either

bring the originals back, if you can, if they'll...

come back and have them be their their classic

characters or throw that out and have all new

characters that have nothing to do with bulk

and skull. You can still have two numbskulls.

You just can't call them bulk and skull unless

you get Jason Narvey and Paul Schreier. And here's

what I would be OK with. If they had a bulk and

skull and then they have, you know, Jason Narvey

and Paul Schreier show up and do a complete face

off and be like. Man, you look awfully familiar.

Did you know did we have something, you know?

You know did do I know your mom or something

like that? I would be totally cool with something

like that. That would be fine If they gave a

nod and obviously saw each other Right, but yeah,

you know if they're gonna have somebody brand

new be bulk in the skull Those guys had better

hit it out of the park or else forget it. Don't

even bother putting them in I ask this question

all the time on this show and on other shows

when new casting of old characters comes up.

Who could possibly play those roles? What actors,

what male actors currently in Hollywood that

have what Jason and Paul had? Could pull that

off. Like I said, you could have two numbskull

characters. You could have two two two nitwits

You know, that's fine. But if you're going to

sit there and say they are bulk and skull then

they have to Embody what the originals kind of

had at the same time striking out on their own

with their own comedy and not just sticking to

to homaging I'll stick to my original statement.

If you're going to have Vulcan Skull, get the

originals. If you're not going to have them,

get different actors to have new characters.

Yeah. Steve? I'm kind of indifferent. I mean,

yeah, they have to be there to some capacity.

I don't really care. They're recasting everybody.

It doesn't really matter if it's them or not

to me because I think that no matter how much

we say that nobody can play them. There there

are people that are available that can play them

and it's I'm saying kind of like what Doug was

saying where it's you know, somebody's gonna

have to step up Nobody can replace them and the

job that they did But it's the same token there's

it's gonna be either way you look about it it's

gonna be It's gonna be difficult to live up to

the height and the the expectations from the

show Well, let me make this comparison. I'm gonna

use Star Trek for it because everybody loves

I do too. Well, that's actually gonna be the

next topic. Yeah, but we'll use that as a segue,

but We started off with the new thing where everybody

was talking about the reboot for Star Trek And

we heard that Zachary Quinto, you know, Siler

was going to play Spock. Everybody was kind of

like, ah, and then they put him in and I thought

he pulled it off and was great. I mean, everybody

was really surprised at how well Zachary Quinto

portrayed Spock. And then you have him facing

Spock, facing Leonard D. Boy in the film, and

it was kind of like. Okay, and you see them together

and you realize that they are two separate people

and that they are two separate While being the

same character, they're two separate beings They're

going off of their own ways and I thought that

was great the way that they pulled that off because

it established that and I think if I Think if

they kind of had something like that, like I

said The Vulcan skull or with even any of the

Power Rangers. I think it would be okay Right

The only thing I can think of when anyone mentions,

and I like Zach's, Zachary Quinto's Spock in

the Abrams films, but ever since, and we all,

all three of us love this show here, so I know

I won't be alone when I say this, but every time

I hear of Zachary Quinto as Spock, all I can

think of is Sheldon. Oh no! They sent the wrong

Spock! Live long and suck it, Zachary Quinto.

Because he orders a standee and they sent...

Where's Future Spock when you need him? Yeah.

Oh, Future Spock needs to start commenting on

Beyond. That's what Future Spock needs to start

doing. Future Spock is one of Steve's alter egos.

Yeah, we made that as a joke after Into Darkness.

Where he quotes various Leonard Nimoy phrases

and that are absurd from like whatever it's been

in Like when he was in Big Bang Theory or when

he was in, you know Just misquoting things on

purpose or doing like anti -spock isms It just

it's hilarious to do it as future Spock. So When

does Beyond come out? July 7th, I think Okay,

you need to spend from July 1st to July 16th.

You need to spend the last the next 16 days Using

future Spock leading up to the release of the

film. Yes Well ever actually I'm gonna let you

guys know that they're gonna have at comic -con

They're gonna have they've already announced

that they've got a special screening for people

they gave out random badges That will be able

to go and see The world premiere here in the

San Diego, so how that's gonna work I have no

flipping idea, but apparently the entire cast

is supposed to be here when they premiere it

so They'll have it I guess they're gonna have

it on like that Wednesday night or something

like that before con But they're gonna have the

world premiere here in San Diego, and I'm like

oh lovely stay away I'm I entered their little

contest online to try and get tickets to see

the premiere but uh that's because i really want

to see the movie and i don't yeah and it would

be cool to see it premiere but um so yeah the

um the film though like i'm i'm looking forward

to it as kind of a whole in in In comparison

to Into Darkness, Into Darkness I absolutely

hated. Because the writing on it was horrid.

Yes, yes it was. It was just an amalgamation

of random Trek things and they made no sense

whatsoever. And you can see in each movie though,

they rehash that stupid bar scene where Kirk's

always in the thing. Like, I don't know what

I'm doing with my life. And they're like, well,

blah, blah, blah. And so like Bones is like the

voice of reason because Pike's dead. So yeah.

Where's future Spock when you need him? I know

I had to go to that low road. But I'm going to

take it even lower. He's up in heaven ghosting

around with Starscream. I thought you were going

to take a different low road. Because we did

recently lose one of the actors for the film.

Oh, no, that right there is a too soon joke.

I wasn't going to make the joke, that's why.

No, no, no, no, but anything mentioning Chekov

is way, way... No, that's not... Because that

guy was extremely talented, but... Oh, god, yes.

He yeah, and it's it's unfortunate that we lost

him to something. I mean granted I'm glad it

wasn't to drugs, but like it's something as stupid

as your car shifting out of gear and smashing

into you like that's That's like I don't know

I just Because it doesn't even in your control

whatsoever like the other ones that have died

of like drug overdose at least they controlled

when they went but When that happened, I was

just like in shock about it Yeah, well, when

that happened, you know how everybody on the

internet, not just us, not just anybody associated

with GCR and This Week in Geek, whatever, anybody

on the internet, whether it's a joyful thing

or a sad thing, they will say, mind blown. I

seriously think the entire world that day that

knew anything about Chekhov, Anton Yelchin, I

think his name is Anton Yelchin. Yeah, so anyone

that knew anything about him or anyone that saw

him in the two Star Trek movies, everybody that

day that that news came out was the entire internet

was saying, Oh my God, mind blown because you

heard what it was, right? It was a recalled Jeep.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's one of those things

where you want to talk about senseless deaths

that just shouldn't happen. That's one of them.

You know, we did this thing, and I know, I have

to tie it into this. We did this thing earlier

this month on GeekCast Radio, actually we did

it here on AlterGeek as well, called Hot Car

Awareness, about leaving your kids and your pets

in your car during the summertime. Nationwide

here in the US last year there were 25 children

that died from people from parents leaving their

kids in a hot car and That those are 25 senseless

deaths that could have been prevented If this

this Jeep thing that that was a recall vehicle

like why are and I? Know I'm going off the rails

here But I'm gonna tie it around because I'm

gonna let Steve actually answer this because

he actually works for a dealership Why the hell

do these car manufacturers? Not check all that

like I know they have tons of safety precautions

and everything else But how does something like

this get through like is this just the one squeaky

wheel now? Through because I've seen car companies

that have said we're going to recall a thousand

two thousand six point five There's there's like

a funny situation with that for one The company

already knows there's going to be a recall on

it based on how many times somebody has taken

in for an issue. So that's the first indicator.

The second is they start mailing out these recall

notices to people when they have no idea when

the parts are coming. So they get, yeah, that's

the thing that drives us nuts about it, because

we get calls about these people freaking out

about their vehicle, which justly so. And they're

like, yeah, I get this recall notice from such

-and -such company. And it happens to all of

them. Doesn't matter which one you work for.

They're all in the same boat. Because it all

boils down to the fact that it's a parts shortage,

and it's a parts manufacturer issue. Because

if you've noticed the... The inventories of these

lots have gone down drastically in the last few

years because there's a part shortage. And so

rather than have like all these extra models

of these vehicles sitting on the lot because

they can show higher. percentage of sold units

of ones that were manufactured they manufacture

less vehicles and so at the same time whenever

you have to wait for a part never mind they're

putting the same part you know or they put the

fixed part on the new vehicles that are being

shipped out they won't have extra to send to

the dealerships until like six months after the

fact because they don't it's it's a mismanagement

issue but They they get people worried about

this crap way too early when there's nothing

that can be done about it and then they get pissed

at the dealership because They're like well.

I get this recall notice. You're supposed to

fix my car, and it's like no we we You know a

lot of time. We don't even know the recalls coming

Because we don't have any indication of when

parts are even showing or even if there is parts

or something if it's not a recall Or it is a

recall they can't tell you when the parts are

coming anyway Because they don't even know that

there's no like set date of when the parts are

coming because I had somebody one of my rental

units a couple weeks ago and He was in my vehicle

for about ten days Because they couldn't give

me a definite answer when the parts were coming

because the company couldn't bother to Give them

an ETA of when it's coming Well, let me give

you an example here. I have a 2007 Ford Mustang

Okay, I've had I received a recall notice about

this car Two years ago stating that I had to

have the airbags replaced on the passenger side

Okay, two years ago. They said well, we're gonna

send you this notice letting you know about the

recall We don't have the parts in but we're gonna

send you another notice to let you know That

hey, you can take your car in to get the parts

Okay Like I want to say maybe Three or four days

to go. I finally got a letter saying the parts

are in you can now go and take your car in to

have it repaired My god two years later. Oh My

god, it's almost like my my old car that I had

Until about two weeks ago because I just leased

a new vehicle My car was a 2005 Chevy Aveil And

I bought it used and I Drove it for about nine

years. Well, there is this I've had everything

that could go possibly wrong with this car go

wrong with it during the time I was paying on

it because it was on factory warranty balance

of factory plus I bought an extended warranty

which proved to be a very helpful thing Because

they gutted this vehicle and rebuilt it all for

the most part over this entire like warranty

period and then after the period was over Nothing

went wrong with the vehicle other than general

wear and tear So when this recall notice came

out, I want to say it was two years ago They

it was on It was something with the the like

the windshield wiper switch Or, no, that's what

it was, because there's two different things

on this. It's like a Korean car, anyway. Daewoo

that's rebranded Chevrolet. Oh, oh, oh. So, just,

no, let me finish this. Okay, good. Because you

have to turn on your lights when you drive this,

because it's not one of those ones that are advanced

with the daytime running lights. There was a

risk of it catching fire and melting the dashboard

and blowing up the car. I'd been driving this

car for seven years at that point, and I'm like,

well, if it was going to blow up, it would have

done so by now. Please tell me you got rid of

this before Ian was born. No, I had the car until

two weeks ago. But they needed to replace that

switch four years ago. And granted, it wasn't

the recall part, but it was just replaced anyway

because I had a different issue at the time that

was electrical, and so they were just replacing

anything to try and fix it. so I get this recall

notice and there's of course no fix and then

like I think it was six months ago I got a notice

saying oh yeah we got the fix and so it was literally

like they just swapped out a part and then it

was like okay done and I'm like yeah I'm pretty

good that uh the car I knew the car wasn't gonna

blow up so um all I can think of is a lot I don't

remember where this line is from but the fix

is in that's all I can think of yeah But so so

speaking of getting back to Trek we want to talk

about last week's feedback on episode 145 so

yes Trek and the Trek fan films So yeah, there

was a little bit of and I'll let Doug talk about

it too in a second Because I kind of brought

up last week with Paramount CBS having their

their rules of what was acceptable with their

their fan films uh and then i came up with my

own list of ways that i thought that they could

could have done it better without having to alienate

and piss off the entire fandom uh and while i

understand it is Paramount CBS's content uh that

they're they're making their basically fan film

fan fiction of Like, for instance, Walking Dread

says, I'm surprised it took this long for someone

to crack down this hard on Star Trek fan films.

I find it a garbage move, but with all the BS

with YouTube and Fair Use, fan films will most

likely become a thing of the past. That was one

comment. I personally think that fan films are

mostly garbage and studios and creators have

every right in the world to control the content

they own or created. Maybe fans should stop trying

to recreate ideas someone else came up with and

create their own. Fans today want everything

for free. They hate that ads exist but somehow

want shows to have high production value even

though they can't earn money. They want to steal

licensed content and get mad when the people

who own the content and are allowing you to use

it want to control the property. It's ridiculous.

Just because you're a fan of something doesn't

mean you have the right to own it and can use

it any way you wish. Okay, well, I will say that

there is a thing out there called fair use on

certain things, you know, not everything. But

I do agree with him about, you know, fans constantly

taking the old ideas and things like that. I

mean, Star Trek has been around 50 years. I mean,

there have been So many different TV shows television

shows one animated series There's been 10 animated

10 classic Prime timeline films three Rebooted

films and then there's a new series starting

next year. So yeah, so I mean Yeah, I do agree

with him about you know finding something else,

but at the same time You know puddings, you know,

like okay, so I recently saw Somebody on on Facebook

post a video of Transformers G1 tied into stop

-motion with the action figures And it was a

scene where Starscream and Thundercracker and

Skywarp are flying off and various things and

Optimus Prime and Megatron were doing various

things And I don't mind that kind of stuff But

the difference you're saying is that that's a

true fan film Yeah, and they're saying that they

don't want any of these like high production

value like acts and our Star Trek renegades Of

gods and men like all these these ones that have

people that used to work on the shows Whether

they were actors or crew they don't want any

of them associated with it. They wanted to be

purely fan films to which I Can't really blame

them Yeah But at the same time like they're also

money grabbing with this situation because they're

saying oh if you want to use you know like the

phaser you have to buy it directly from us you

know the prop if you want you know which i i

find to be a crack like and it can't be a toy

it can't be a reproduction it can't be like a

knockoff it has to be an official licensed um

prop from paramount cbs next thing you know paramount

cbs are gonna cut uh cut down cosplayers oh i

don't even want to think about how ugly that'll

be a comic that'll be hilarious That's what this

whole fan film thing reminds me of now. I'm just

sitting there with popcorn watching this whole

thing. Yeah, CBS and Paramount will self -destruct

if that happens. The thing that kills me about

them is, like, it has really nothing to do with

that. Like, I'm not slanted towards their service

anyway because, like, their app, they're already

kind of, to me, screw in the pooch with putting

it... mobile only to their app. If they really

wanted to get the most broad exposure, they'd

either A, put it on cable or put it on like,

and I know that their CBS app is like their,

their like HBO go or like Hulu or like Netflix

for CBS content. But I'm not like, I already

subscribed to Netflix. I'm not going to like

pick up CBS is just so I can watch one television

show. One yeah one television channel I I I My

wife and I both looked at each other We said

you know what we'll buy an antenna, and we'll

hook it up to our TV to try and pick up CBS There's

no reason for us to sit there and try and go

through the paywall that CBS has put up to watch

their older crap Well, not only that but like

I mean I have one of those $20 antennas and it

worked great I had it on my TV. I got Fox ABC

CBS NBC and um cw so that was all the channels

i watched anyway um but they're only gonna air

the first episode on cable for star trek and

then they're gonna have the rest of it on the

app and it's gonna come out weekly on the app

and honestly to me i that's gonna turn me off

to it Yeah, because like if they had it on cable

I would make a concerted effort to sit down and

watch it or DVR it so that they could still get

the numbers for it but like to sit there and

have to stream it through their app I mean if

it's available on their website I'll probably

watch it through that because like I can do that

when I'm on my breaks at work, but See, that's

the other thing I'm wondering about the whole

new Star Trek TV series Is it just going to be

behind the paywall on the ass or are they going?

Okay, but are they going to eventually allow

it to be like okay? Remember when that 75th anniversary

Captain America thing was on ABC? Yeah, yeah,

so That was on ABC one Tuesday night or Wednesday

night or whatever the hell it was on The very

next day or the day before that I went on ABC's

website to see if I could watch it because most

of most of the the big networks just immediately

put the stuff on the next day. It said, nope,

you gotta wait a week. I'm like, that's kinda

crappy for free content that you have to wait

a week if you can't watch it on TV itself. But

at least it's not behind a paywall. So I'm wondering

if they'll ever take Star Trek and just put it

on the CBS website to watch. Like say after the

first five episodes have aired on the app and

behind the paywall will they then say oh here

you go You can just have it anyway. I'm wondering

that right now. They're gonna say no because

yeah, these these are the guys who are the How

do I find a nice? Nice way to term, you know,

they they are flubbergusters. Yes. There we go

You know these firms are You know just really

irritating me But yeah, they took old shows now

keeping in mind that CBS and Paramount Viacom

own a bunch of content they own MacGyver they

were the ones who produced it Okay, so they had

it one time when you could actually go onto their

website and watch all the episodes of MacGyver

Not anymore. It's all behind the firming paywall

And now it's on Netflix. The whole series is

on Netflix and Hulu, so it's behind those paywalls

too. But for me at this point, and I've said

this in the past few episodes, would I love to

have cable television again? Sure. Do I need

it? No. I pay just under $21 a month for Netflix

and Hulu. My Hulu Plus subscription is $11 .99,

and that gets me unlimited everything with no

ads. so granted most of the new shows there's

only like okay last week we talked about the

cw netflix deal with uh with getting flash off

of hulu and all that crap which is stupid to

me but anyway we talked about that last week

where the reason why uh cw and who like hulu

only was allowed from cw to have five episodes

of flash at one time the the most recent episode

than four others streaming at one point and They

would then remove the other ones and I'm like,

why not just put the whole Shaboodle. I don't

know whatever but yeah, it's the whole paywall

TV and especially the network apps It's like

why don't y 'all just talk to Netflix and Hulu

or talk to Hulu more specifically because Hulu

You know has that plan of you know next day airings

right? So if you know what was today Thursday,

so Smackdown I know Steve's not a wrestling fan,

but WWE SmackDown airs tonight. It'll be available

to watch on Hulu tomorrow by 10 AM, 11 AM Eastern.

So why not, instead of trying to create your

own paywalls and getting people not to buy your

apps or pay subscriptions for your apps, why

not just have a major deal with Hulu for infantile

number of years? where your content can be I

don't know just the whole the whole thing is

just screwed beyond belief yeah so in other words

we're on one side of the fence and we feel it

but on the other side we feel screwed too yep

it you know it's it's none but screw balls around

here All right, the next, should we move on now

or do we have anything else? Yeah, we should

move on. Okay, so the next topic is mine. I wanted

to bring this up because I'm getting kind of

sick of it. June 27th is Jen and I's anniversary

date. We had one year anniversary a few days

ago. Wake up I come out here to my computer and

I get going and get doing stuff checking social

media and everything else and For me every now

and then I use Facebook trending a hell of a

lot more than Twitter Trending or Twitter moments

or whatever the hell Twitter has anyway. I see

there on Facebook trending that June 27th is

National sunglasses day So I can so I can see

yeah, so My thought was for the topic here was

can we please talk about national whatever the

hell day because it seems like every single day

of every single month since the last four years

Every day has some sort of celebration day now.

I'm not talking about You know I you know I'm

not talking about the gay pride stuff or anything

like that at all That's that's been cemented

in stone for a while. I'm talking about like

Things like national donut day or a national

in the nuts day. I have it for you Mike. I have

it for you National talk like a pirate day. Yeah

that really started it or national and I know

This one is only on his birthday, but national

talk like William Shatner day, but that's really

on his actual birthday. So that one, you know

what? I'll give that one. That one's okay. That

one I'll give a pass because it is on the guy's

birthday. But like apparently June 27th is this

magical day where everybody needs to celebrate

wearing sunglasses. What the Ferb are you talking

about? Can't we just have a normal day people

can't we just have a normal? Monday Tuesday Wednesday

Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday does every every

day have to be celebrating something For some

special people yes, because they have to feel

special come on like we Don't don't get me started

on this because then I'm gonna start dropping

f -bombs and it's gonna be bombs there you know

what I mean it's gonna be I'm basically gonna

tell you that you're wrong and everybody else

is right and that's it because that's the way

that life is No sense and I hope Steve doesn't

mind this that I'm gonna ask Doug this what the

heck was going on with your Facebook? Oh, man,

okay, okay His digest version here's digest version

it starts off with a friend posted up a picture

From Red Cross and there were there were a couple

of african -american kids who were pushing and

basically not being cool around the pool Okay,

and so I looked at that and I said oh, you know

I'm kind of surprised that they actually had

that because from what I know statistically and

I pulled out statistics from University of Memphis

and said You know, there are not a lot of African

-American kids or Hispanic kids that know how

to swim. Proven fact statistics. And it blew

up on me. And people were like, you can't say

that. That's racist. Wait a minute. It's a statistic.

It's a known fact. It's not like I'm saying,

oh, my God, black kids are horrible and they

can't, you know, they can't swim. So they're

horrible. No, I was making a statement saying

they really should learn how to swim. And that

was it. And so everybody started telling me,

well, you're wrong and blah, blah, blah. And

I kind of went, you know what? This is this is

BS. And I said, you know, first I said that Trump,

you know, Trump was wrong. I don't like Trump.

That's my stance, you know. And people were saying,

you're wrong, you're wrong. And I just finally

said, oh, my God, shut up. And I lost it. So,

yeah, I went off on my little tirade. I'm sorry.

Yeah, it's one of those things where, you know.

everybody has to like okay me personally I know

like you know Steve you said earlier that you

thought I was gonna go down the lower road of

making a very very bad tasteless joke about a

recent celebrity death which I would never never

do most of the time I would never do that unless

it was like you know Britney Spears or Taylor

Swift or somebody like that anyway but I have

the common sense of some things You just don't

say it loud. You can say them in your head all

the day long. But there's just certain things.

There's just certain stuff that you don't say.

It's not being about politically incorrect or

correct, but it's like, when did the entire world

lose its Mother Furbin backbone about Anybody

you're expressing their opinion. It's like oh

my god I can't express this opinion because it's

going to offend this person this person this

person and that one guy over in Moscow it's like

what the hell at the same time, you know, it's

a it's a hard double -edged sword It's a double

it, you know, it's it's two sides of the same

coin Yes, I know there are certain things I should

never say which it's fine I don't have to say

them, but at the same time if I want to articulate

My opinion in a very interesting way whether

it's a positive or negative opinion. I Have freedom

of speech. I should be able to do that without

the entire internet Jumping down my throat. That's

why I always use whenever I bring up anything

controversial even if I'm doing it on purpose

I always use after I get responses. Oh my god.

I say one thing about this and Everybody loses

their mind. You know you go to Heath Ledger.

Everybody loses their minds is ridiculous It

really is that that was my whole rant of just

the world has lost their minds on social media

Guns are bad. You know guns are good. Trump is

bad. Trump is good. Hillary is bad No matter

which way you go you're wrong We're essentially

putting a gun in our mouth talking about guns

in right now. So let's transition. We are going

to actually go to myself and our good buddy Joe

Reed from Off the Cuff. Joe Reed also does the

Turtles comic stuff with me on the pull bag.

I had a recent discussion with him about Altered

Tech. So you're going to hear Steve introduce

the Altered Tech segment and then you're going

to hear Joe and I talk about landlines and cell

phones. You're also going to hear, and I hope

Steve allows this or not. He may end up bleeping

it, but I hope he doesn't. Because we're talking

about landlines and cell phones, I went ahead

and I grabbed out the telephone tough guy scene

from Lethal Weapon 4, and it does have cursing,

folks. It does have cursing, so you have been

warned. Let's get to Alter Tech. After this we

brought the entire convention center to the brink

of an inter -genre geek war. Okay, Michael if

we're going to tackle this podcast thing We've

got to do something really special. It has to

be cool daily in audio form and Undetectable

by radar something that screams summer. I know

let's do a Phineas and Ferb review podcast We'll

call it the podcast organization without a cool

acronym or Pauka for short. What do you think?

I think if we're not careful Candice is gonna

bust us You can find Pauka on the GeekCast, Radio

Network, iTunes, Blog Talk Radio, and all of

the other methods you find podcasts. Hello ladies

and gentlemen, this is a frog -throated DFT on

Mike Steve Megatron was originally going to introduce

altered tech, but he I don't know he's he's not

here So here's altered tech talking about landlines

and cell phones as I said a moment ago with myself

and Joe Reed enjoy You get a call, they cut you

off. You make a call, they cut you off. What's

the point? I never get... Don't you know what

they're doing, kid? They fuck you with cell phones.

That's what it is. They're fucking you with the

cell phone. They love when you get cut off. You

know why? Huh? You know why? Because when you

call back, which they know you're gonna do, they

charge you for that fucking first minute again

at that high rate. If you're lucky enough to

be able to call back because the three -hour

battery you got only lasts for 20 fucking minutes...

Or what if you're behind a fucking hill and it's

going... Oh, you're going through a damn tunnel

or some shit, man? And they keep making it smaller.

You know why they make them this... so you can

lose them. Why? So you have to buy more phones.

I never lost my mother's phone. It took you two

hours to make a damn long distance call. Four.

Five. Oh, I messed up. Hang up. Gotta do it again.

Four. Five. I never lost my Sports Illustrated

swimsuit phone. And how about the scanners? These

idiots get your phone number and make calls all

over the world. Somebody took my number and called

Afghanistan. Afghanistan! No, nobody in Afghanistan!

I don't know what fucking Afghanistan look like.

And even if I did, I would not talk to that Afghan

ass for three hours. I won't talk to my daddy

for three hours. They fuck you, they fuck you,

they fuck you with their cell phones. Hey, you

know what happens when you go to a drive -thru?

They get you any... Hold on. Hold on. Why am

I talking... Hold on. Leo Getz, private investigator.

Private investigator? Yeah. Yeah, Mr. Getz, I

was wondering if you would be willing to investigate

my privates. Investigate what? My privates, you

stupid shit. Shut the fuck up. Very funny rigs.

You're costing me a lot of money here. Yeah You're

pretty tough when you're on the phone aren't

you a little phone? That's right telephone tough

guy So you have a smartphone now when you said

Joe what smartphone you had I'm like He's got

a Razor now If they made one I'd buy it Yeah,

it's always funny when they have various things,

but yeah, I remember when you posted about the

the Motorola razor I'm like wow that that phone

so old, but hey it works for you Yeah, I haven't

I haven't encountered anything that I can't do

the Facebook messenger app sometimes doesn't

Send my things it'll sit there and say searching

for network, and I don't know if that's an app

thing or if it's my phone thing So whatever I

just go get on the computer, but everything else

there's no like why would I need a newer phone?

I can't tell anything that I can't do I mean

I'm sure it couldn't play some games, but I don't

want my cell phone for games anyway I like my

games on the television with a joystick in my

hand Yeah, and the other thing was with the rate.

I remember way back when I don't even know how

long ago. It has to at least been 10 years or

more that the Razer even came out when they first

started those. I remember I went to a cell phone

store back then to see it. Oh, it's the new,

the hot new thing. The only thing if I'm remembering

correctly is the keypad is very thin. Like it's,

it's, you know what I mean? Isn't it like paper

thin? No, it's all touchscreen. Yeah. Whatever

I have is one of the later versions of it. It's

only four years old. Oh, okay. Well, the original,

original one... Have a slide -out keyboard? No,

it didn't have a slide -out. See, the original

versions were flip phones. Alright. And the flip

phone version of the Razer is... So, as you can

see, the original Razer, and if you look at the

screen there, if you look at all those buttons,

they're essentially inset buttons. they're not

pop out. So I remember when I originally saw

the Razer, I'm like, that phone looks so cool,

but oh my god, those would be a nightmare to

use those buttons. I'd have to mash my fat finger

down inside them. Yeah. Oh, Motorola Razer, when

you first came out, you sucked. So you said you

had the Razer M. Yep. Let's see. Oh, okay. So

yeah, that's cool. It's the Yeah, full -on full

screen touch screen. Yeah, very very cool. It's

small but it totally does what it's supposed

to do That's cool. That works. I will never spend

money on a smartphone I mean not more than 30

40 bucks. I just I don't know who's out there

paying 400 bucks for a smartphone like Does it

really do that much for you considering? I'll

buy a new video game system for two 250 and have

it for six seven years Like I just I can't I

don't get it a phone is not worth that much to

me to avoid paying that much money I would not

have a phone. I would use a regular thing. I

just don't get it I don't get what some people

put their monetary value, and I guess that's

a more considerate way to say it. Well, like

I said before, it's a hot new thing. You look

at Apple, and you look at iPhone, and all that

stuff, or iPads, and everything else, and it's

the hot thing to have. And if you have that disposable

income. And most people end up on a two -year

contract with a payment plan. I hear ads all

the time for AT &T Next. AT &T Next is essentially,

oh, you can have this new phone. but you're going

to have to pay us $40 extra a month for a payment

plan for the cost of the phone, you know. And

I look at that and say, yeah, I'll buy the phone

for $40, but you want me to pay for two years?

No. I think that's I think the payment plan thing

is just the the the trick to get you to spend

way more money than you think you want to. Oh,

absolutely. When you find out you're paying $600

for that phone over two years. Yeah. See for

me if I was ever in my life or whatever, you

know I'm 36. So whatever I you know, whatever

time I have left if I was ever gonna get a smart

device It would probably be like an iPad Pro

and I would just pay one one flat fee whether

it's the Whatever the prices are for the iPad

Pros $4 .99 $5 .99, you know that for me is the

same thing for you is like what a video game

system is, you know, so You know, at this point

in my life... I pay 90 bucks a year for Skype.

I have a home phone from my cable company, so

it's not like I need an actual. I mean, I do

have a cell phone, but it's one of the old ones

and I don't really, I use it for text messaging.

That's pretty much it. That's all I use it for.

Back in the day, I used to do games on phones

and everything else. I remember when Nokia started

coming out with like the 5120 and the 6120 and

all that stuff. They had that old game snake

on there. play that all day because also yes

I would play that all the damn time but now it's

like I just I just don't I'd rather have the

iPad or some sort of bigger tablet then and then

they try to they try to outdo tablets with oh

my god here's and I keep saying iPhone because

it's really the only one I really know oh here's

the iPhone 6s plus that's you know 12 whatever

it's like this super giant phone that you can't

you know it's like it's like this modern thing

super giant 1980s phone if it's in the modern

day you know I don't understand how for the longest

time there was the thing to do with your phone

was to make it smaller smaller smaller and now

they're getting bigger and bigger and bigger

again it's like they're trying to tell us what

is cool like no no look at your life and decide

which one is more important to you. Do you want

it to be big or do you want it to be small? Don't

let them dictate. And then there's all the smartwatches.

I am sorry. There's no way in hell I'm going

to make a phone call on a watch. I mean, don't

get me wrong, I'm a huge Knight Rider fan. I

did a whole Knight Rider podcast here on GCR

and everything else, but it's one of those things

where, holy crap, as cool as Michael Knight's

watch was to talk to Kit, I do not need that

today. That just... Oh, yeah, and the whole the

whole illusion of the smart watch it's like no

that watch is not actually all that smart It

just communicates with your cell phone And it's

like no, I just can't I don't get it. I don't

I don't get it It's not not dick Tracy here with

this with the watch. Oh Good old dick Tracy good

old duck twice. Oh Boy, but yeah Kids in their

technology today. That's the other question.

What kind of, you know, six -figure jobs do half

these technology people have to be able to buy

these things, even if they're buying them on

payment plan? Yeah, man, just... Well, I think

a lot of people go into debt for this stuff.

Like, I don't have a credit card. I don't believe

in credit. The only part of my... Spending that

isn't cash is for we bought a house and we bought

a car and the cars paid off So now we really

well and student loans so student loans in my

house is all we have all that we don't actually

own I just I just doesn't if I don't have the

money to buy it. I save it You own the house.

It's just not paid off yet. Well, I I consider

that that I don't own it yet I we own the house.

Yes, but it's not not until the payments are

all gone. Do we? Legitimately own it. So yeah,

like these people are going into debt to do it

and they're convinced They've been convinced

by society that debt is the natural way of things

you you hear people say How do you live without

a credit card? You should do that to get these

bonus points. Yeah, these bonus points are there

Enticing you to do something you shouldn't do

and that's to go into debt No, I mean I looking

at this nerd wall here Every penny of that was

me working really hard to save the money to buy

that stuff or trading up I love trading up because

then you you put five bucks into something in

a year later You have something that's worth

150 because you had something somebody else wanted

and trade, you know But I debt that scares me

I don't I don't need to pay 40 bucks a month

for a device And end up paying three times as

much as I would if I just saved my three dollar

Taco Bell money for a while Yeah, when I first

found you know I first started using Skype and

all that stuff for podcasting and the network

and all that stuff here When I found out that

you know I could pay Skype yearly $90 a year

for a phone number and Unlimited US and Canada

for 90 bucks a year That's a hell of a lot better

deal than $65 a month on any cell phone plan

or any home phone plan. Uh -huh So yep Yep, voiceover

IP. It's the way of the future That's really

that's what we're doing too when we bundle our

cable our phone and our internet we're we're

Subsidizing the existence of the old network.

We're supporting that because it still is a law

that you have to have Working phone line into

your house in the United States 9 -1 -1 calls

and all that I once had a our phone company told

me that was not true, but no it's certainly here's

the law I copied and paste pasted it Just cuz

it's not a safety. It's a safety thing. Yeah,

but Well, I think Since nobody's paying for those

long -distance calls anymore some money to maintain

those wires those physical copper wires needs

to be some yeah, we'll see the thing is is the

the There's no long -distance camera. I'm sure

they're still out there, but there's really MCI

is dead. I know MCI is dead AT &T There's no

real long -distance anymore like I remember you

know back Let's say 1990 when I was still living

in Massachusetts I would have to you know call

my dad's work 800 number because Calling from

Massachusetts to here to Kentucky was long distance

and now that's a thing of the past You just dial

the number. I remember buying time cards, little

cards with the numbers on it that you'd call

to call a pen pal in Canada. Like, yeah, you

know, I could just pick up my cell phone now

and call her and there it is. That's easy. And

it doesn't cost me a dime more than I'm already

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here on Altered Geek Unlimited. And now we're

going to talk about podcasting problems. Steve

and I have been podcast while he's been podcasting

eight year, nine years this year. I've been podcasting

eight years this year. The network has been online

seven years as of June 1st. Uh, and we weren't

into podcasting problems all the time, but before

we talk about our podcasting problems, cause

we run a whole network of over 20 different shows.

Sometimes. Getting one little generational podcast

off the ground causes all kinds of problems.

So, Doug, what kind of podcast problems have

you come into over the, what is it, one, two

years that TVM has been around? Three years?

Three years, yeah. Three years, unfortunately.

Well, I've actually... Ladies and gentlemen,

it took him three years to do a reboot. I know,

I know. It's less than DC, which is kind of sad

because it took them five years to do a second

reboot. Anyway, go ahead with your your your

grand tells of podcast dumbass. Let me let me

start off with some of the things. Part of it

was that I had a great idea and, you know, I

was going forward with it. I had a bunch of episode

ideas and. I asked first off, I started off with

the wrong people asking the wrong people to come

in and. Host with me and that was that was a

blowout Don't know what before yeah You know

just don't don't go with people who? Think that

they're gonna be good then it won't take over

the show in a sense You know if you can't get

along talking with them In a good way forget

it the show's gonna be a bomb right off the start

Yeah, really really quickly before you go on

I have to tell the story so as everyone knows

Steve yeah, you don't need to articulate that

answer. No, I'm gonna be alright. I'm gonna be

I'm gonna be politically correct here Steve is

as everyone knows Steven C Phillips is Steve

Megatron because Steve loves Beast Wars and he

loves Beast Wars Megatron specifically Way back

when when Steve allowed so graciously allowed

me to start podcasting and basically took care

of everything in the beginning uh... editing

and all the other stuff uh... the way i like

to tell the story now is i had to save megatron

from a texas -sized galvatron so we know all

about getting the wrong people to host a podcast

i was going to say that you saved me from a texas

chainsaw massacre but no a texas galvatron massacre

but anyway you know that guy was strange Yeah,

I found that out after I never heard from him

again after that I don't think but Anyway, go

ahead. I'll continue. I'll have our we all have

our weirdos out there Yes, we do. But yeah, I've

had that I went through I've gone through several

site changes and it's all been seamless to where

most people don't even realize that it's happened

Because I've gone through and I've kept the same

name I've changed hosts. I haven't really changed

the background. I've changed the logo like twice,

I think. And that's been about it. And really,

you know, it's kind of falling apart. And I think

my biggest problem has been just trying to find

topics that everybody agrees on and everybody

wants to do. That's that's been the main problem

I've had other than, you know, now trying to

figure out how to keep the podcast going out

of my own pocket. It's, you know, unfortunately,

podcasting is not cheap. I will say that right

now. No, it's not. You know, you are buying equipment,

you know, stuff breaks down. My mixer that I've

got here, which I don't want to go into how much

I paid for it. Now it's having problems with

the real stats and it's essentially a piece of

dead or dying garage equipment, people. It's

a dodge. Yeah. You know, dodge it if you can.

Yeah. Maybe you should, you know, flip it over

and read the details. Yeah. So I mean, there's

been that there's been that I did some dumb things

and I'm learning it now in that I originally

had a I had a hosting site where I had WordPress

and I was going through and actually publishing

all of my podcast episodes using WordPress, which

worked out great. And then I got into my head

that, hey, I'm paying 20 bucks a month for Libsyn

to host my podcast files. I'll just move everything

over there because they have this webpage site

where I can do it. Let me tell you folks, unless

you really know HTML coding and CSS scripting,

which I don't, it becomes a bear to try and have

to put it together correctly. Probably will end

up here. This is part of why I'm going through

a rebirth and a redesign That will be coming

here. I'm gonna be I'm making some decisions

and trying to find a good hosting site where

I can get inexpensive WordPress hosting just

to do the podcast episodes and I'll still leave

everything with Libsyn for downloads and We've

got a plan for you that we'll talk about off.

Yeah So we've got we've got some changes coming

obviously and you know, it's we're going to finally

have more of a format that's that's another big

problem is just not knowing how I'm gonna do

this and you know, but hey, you know three years

and you run out of steam and you run out of ideas

and Now you need somebody else to kick you in

the ass. Oh, dude. There have been many times,

Steve, you know, there have been many times,

seven years, many times, where Steve has either

called me or direct messaged me and said, I just

don't give a flying fervor anymore. I want to

kill it and start anew and do something else.

And I've talked him out of it every single time

because I am a firm believer in If it's not broken,

don't fix it. But at the same time, if there

is something wrong, find a workaround, find some,

some way to change it. We have gone through.

Okay. Sure. We've had seven complete full version

redesigns, but there have been infantile amount

of redesigns to geekcastradio .com. Uh, there

have been website changes, podcast changes. Oh,

trust me, trust us. We know there have been plenty

of times where, and I've loved doing this for

the seven, eight years that I've been doing it.

There have been plenty of times where I just

wanted to throw in the towel. Cause I just didn't

give a crap anymore. Really what it gets me is,

is I'm I generally, my original thought was I'm

doing this for myself. I want to talk to interesting

people like Steve, like you Doug, like everyone

else I've talked to over the last seven, eight

years. But I also become friends with, obviously

we all become friends. So I want to hang out

with my friends and talk with my friends and

have a good time. At the same time, we all crave

feedback. You know, you put something out in

the world that you want people to pay attention

to. You want to get feedback back and then when

you don't it's so discouraging Yeah, because

it's like is anyone actually lit like, you know,

is anyone actually listening to this? That's

one of the reasons why I went and you know Through

my mind on a on a train track this summer and

just said screw it. I'm gonna do 104 podcasts

in 104 days because I want to see how much People

will pay it like if people aren't paying attention

to my podcast that I put out weekly by weekly

or monthly I'm gonna then attempt even though

I probably know this is a poor attempt to see

if they'll You know pay attention to a daily

podcast Yeah, and everybody loves Phineas almost

everybody most of the funny thing is is people

And this is this has always been the thing with

gcr and people have always flocked to the website

when it's animation related. A lot of the other

stuff on the network is awesome, but it doesn't

necessarily get the same notoriety as the animated

sections of the site. And I've always noticed

that Tooncast Classic is our most downloaded

show in the entire history of the network and

followed by Geekcast Radio because we've done

the top 100s. Right geek cast radio for those

that don't know and I know I know I've talked

to Doug about this But you know in case anyone

doesn't remember is our flagship podcast It's

where we put the big stuff like Steve said the

top 100s the top 50s the the just the huge overall

geek topics You know, we had a whole TMNT week.

We had a Batman week. We had all kinds of stuff

over the years But yeah to cast classic, you

know I didn't kill that show. I'm one of these

people, and I've said this before a million times.

I know people are sick of me saying this. I have

to sit here and craft a plan for myself. I need

a roadmap that's going to last me, that's going

to take me through. And if it changes along the

way, fine. But I need a good start point, and

I need a very good ending point. My plan for

Tooncast Classic was start at episode zero and

get to 100 episodes. And I did that. and I ended

the podcast. I then had the idea of, OK, yes,

Tooncast Classic is over, but I'm going to go

beyond and I'm going to create Tooncast Beyond.

We're still going to be talking animation and

various things and Tooncast Beyond. And it's

when we start that 2011. Oh, my God, that shows

four years old. Holy schnikes. So in four episodes,

this will be three years old at 150 episodes.

Yep, and I still can't decide what I want the

podcast featured art to be We can talk about

that later I'm still messing with it. That's

why yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we can talk about it later,

but here's what I'm saying is like, you know

You got to have a roadmap. You can't just as

go in and say, you know, okay I'm gonna do this

this and this and then I don't know after that

as Joker would say in the dark night It's all

a part of the plan. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, podcasting

problems on our side, for me personally, it's

when, like Doug mentioned earlier, equipment

goes bad or things screw up. For me, it's when

certain recording equipment screws up. And it's

not so much like if it screws up with, I feel

absolutely horrible when it happens like with

us. when it happens to us and stuff but when

I've had guests when I've had interviews and

I can't get the recorder to work even though

I'm here in Louisville Kentucky behind my screen

and they're out in California or in New York

or wherever they are it's still the most embarrassing

thing ever or when I do something as so stupid

as to lose the audio like accidentally delete

the audio or whatever else and then I have to

go to the guest and say My god something happened

to my computer or something. I did something

and I don't have the interview anymore I'm sorry,

you know when I have to go back to them and basically

Plead for them to come back after they just spent

all that, you know hour, you know 30 minutes

whatever it was so that for me with podcasting

problems is really really been a sore spot is

when the technical difficulties Happen and when

they happen, it just gets me so damn depressed.

Oh, yeah Because we're sitting here, you know

There have been plenty of times on on M wire

on GCR and wars on our year -end review shows

Where we have several Mmm, would you say Steve

about 20 or 30 maybe less than that something

like that? Podcasts that have gone for five hours

That's not normally what we want to happen. Normally

for me anywhere between 30 minutes and two hours

is fine Sometimes depending on the conversation

it can go to three hours But those four and five

hour episodes those are like some special stuff,

you know, that's you know, we've got two episodes

of movie we can review episode 75 part 1 and

part 2 the original trilogy and the prequels

that Those two episodes, if you put them together,

they're just over five hours of Star Wars film

discussion. So we put a lot of time, effort,

and energy into this. And if something goes wrong,

at least to me, even though it's not the end

of the world, even though my arm's not falling

off or something or I haven't been shot in the

head, it's still a punch in the gut because,

oh my god, I just wasted all these people's time.

If you know like if I lose the audio or something

like that, then you feel like epic fail Yeah,

pretty much The other thing is I've learned since

this mistake and I've talked about this mistake

a lot We kind of got put on the map with a question

optimus solo asked Maurice LaMarche in the interview

that we did with Maurice LaMarche Optimus Solo

asked him, and this is a simple question, we

ask it all the time, what type of voice acting

do you like the best? Animation, voice over dubbing,

or video game, or something like that. And he's

like, oh, well, with the video game thing, it's

interesting because it's just you in a room talking

to yourself doing lines. And he said, oh, I recently

did the voice of Mr. Freeze for Batman Arkham

City. At the time, that had not been announced.

Maurice just wanted to give us an honest and

interesting answer. I didn't ask him before we

hung up with him if there was anything he wanted

me to cut out of the interview. I went ahead,

edited it immediately, got it online the next

day. Some little unknown website picked it up.

IGN picked it up. Kotaku picked it up. Everybody

had it. Once IGN had it, it was out there. Because

I was freaking out. I was like, dude. Yeah, you

know so so once imagine game network had it It

was it was out there there was no stopping it

and You know, I'm sitting, you know, I got an

email I think I got an email or a message from

Maurice Lamar saying yeah, I probably shouldn't

have said that I'm like You know, I can edit

it if you want me to he's like no it's out there

and you know this happened like that very day

because I edited I Wanted to get this interview

out there so fast. I we recorded it and edited

it in the same damn day I had it I had Steve

get it online the day that we recorded it and

I Had gone out with my mom and I came back to

all this stuff and I'm like, oh my god Should

I call the guy should I you know? So now, because

of that learning experience, and hopefully Mr.

LaMarche will come back and talk with us at some

point in the future, at the end of every interview

I do, no matter who it is, it doesn't matter

who it is, it could be a YouTube person, it could

be anybody, it doesn't matter who it is, I always

ask, okay, the interview's over, I've stopped

recording, is there anything that was said in

the last 30 minutes, hour, whatever, that you

want me to edit out? And if they say yes, no

fine, whatever, you know That's that's fine.

So yeah, that was a huge huge learning curve

Yeah, I remember when you and I interviewed eg

daily and that was something that like I asked

right from the start If we say if we ask anything

that you think might go, you know that might

get you into trouble Tell us right, you know,

go ahead cut us off. We have no problem with

that. Yeah. Yeah absolutely because it's just

friggin' crazy. What kind of podcast problems

have you run into, Steve? Gee, what haven't I

run into? Well, when I first started, I was recording

solo podcasts which were trainwrecked because

I wasn't quite comfortable with my own voice

at the time. And I was recording on one of those

little nine dollar Logitech lab tech Microphones

that plug into the little port on the computer

and it's something like garbage So Walmart headset

essentially. Yeah, basically. Well, it wasn't

a headset I had separate headset and then I had

a separate microphone and then I ended up getting

my USB clear chat Pro that died like two weeks

ago and I had to get a replacement which I'm

getting used to now, but It's still at the same

But uh and then I had issues where you know stupid

thing clicks all the time or You know we've had

we've had bad audio that we've had to edit like

the first interview with David K Like I eventually

figured out how to clean that up because it was

on a landline And it was it was it was an awesome

conversation in the and he gave us some awesome

promo spots But I couldn't use any of them barely

because they were all like In the background

So it was just, it was horrid, and so eventually,

I got that all straightened out, and yeah, it

was great, but then, of course, I can't forget

our early recordings. And by early recordings,

he means... You know, early morning, 5 a .m.,

morning show DJ recordings. We were crazy back

then. Yeah. What I mean is, yeah, the thing that

sucked about that was back in the day. We we

used to record early in the morning plus I didn't

have all of this fancy software that I have now

So I had to hand edit Every show I'm sorry I

had to hand code the RSS feed Which was another

that that was a joy. I yeah, I could killed somebody.

Technology has certainly come along. As the years

have gone on, things have gotten easier, you

could say, because everything is automated. Plus,

now I've learned how to edit. Of course, I've

been editing since 2012, 2013. I'm going to give

you a little bit more credit. Well, I'm saying

it's been... It was maybe, well we started the

network in 2009, so it was probably around 2010,

maybe mid 2010, early 2011, and I finally learned

how to edit. My thing is, I needed something.

I needed a piece of software, like Pamela Call

Recorder, that would record the entire conversation,

because the one part of editing I've never learned

and hopefully... If I ever get out to Michigan

or if I eventually fly Steve out to California

for my wedding, I'm going to have him show me

how to edit two tracks together. So like my,

my audio is on one side and his audio is on one

side and Doug's audio is on the third side. I've

never been able to do that. So I needed a piece

of audio software, a piece of recording software

that's going to record the whole damn conversation

and I can then edit it. The other thing for me

is One of the reasons why altered geek has segments

and I love that it has segments because I use

segments all the time so I can see where to break

everything up and Then I can insert whatever

and fade in and out audio like an audio clip

or something like that So yeah, I I I edit a

lot now Yeah, cuz I do a lot now. Well, and then

like a lot of the site stuff I have automated.

Yep, which But again, I've got to give you credit

for that because you've done amazing on the site

design and you handle all the back -end problems.

Like Doug said, I know nothing about HTML5. I

know nothing about any of that coding stuff.

Shoot, I don't know nothing about HTML5 or CSS.

The only reason I know what I know is because

I'm certified in website design, but that was

back in 2004 under HTML 4 .01. So like I have

two certifications from that year. Like I had

two programs I took at a skill centered thing.

And then, um, so like my information is dated

about then, and I used to use front page to build

my websites. And I did until I started using

and I used it until, well, I knew how to dig

in the code and clean up certain aspects, but

it was still a train wreck. Um, so I used that

until I got acquainted with my buddy, uh, WordPress.

And so now, I still know how to do a lot of that

HTML crap, which comes in handy when I have to

hand code something periodically. But especially

when I'm doing the GCR and wars of the top 100

linkings on the image, because I didn't, for

the life of me, couldn't. I could write that

because theoretically you should be able to code

it in CSS I don't know how to do that. So I cheat

and I use front page still when I do that so

it essentially makes my job easy and I Know enough

to be dangerous. I know it like a lot of the

stuff that's automated. I'm very thankful that

it's automated The GCRN, let's get dangerous.

I'm glad that everything is pretty much automated

now. I don't know how I'd cope otherwise. I hope

you don't mind me saying this because you've

said it before. In the nine years that Steve

has podcasted, in the eight years that I've podcasted,

in the seven years that the network has been

online, In that time, his life has changed drastically.

He has two boys now. He has two kids now. He

doesn't have time for doing everything that he

used to do. So the automated stuff is like he

said, he used to hand do everything all the time.

So the automated stuff is just a blessing at

this point. So anything you guys want to pimp

out before we go? Well, we're going to work on

it. We're going to have a discussion. Doug and

I, I'm going to rope Doug into a discussion here

with Steve, and we're going to be talking about

an all -new, brand -new generation. Talking about

my generation will come back bigger, better,

and always uncut. Bigger, longer, and uncut.

Yes. Whatever. No. There's no way in hell that

talking about my generation is going to have

a five -hour episode as long as I have anything

to do with it. I do that enough on DCRN. Anyway.

Well, you know, if you talk about South Park,

because the movie was bigger, longer, and uncut.

But damn Canadians, Terrence and Philip. But

yeah, go ahead, Doug. Pimp out whatever you want.

Yeah, I was just going to say, we are going to

have, we're coming back. We have a new episode

that's going to be launching July 4th for everybody

to hear. We're going to be talking Independence

Day, the 1996 film. Go out and listen to it.

It will be out there before the site is finished.

I tell you that right now. So you will have to

kind of suffer with the old stuff a little bit.

It's not too bad, but you'll be able to hear

you'll be able to hear the audio. Like I said,

we've got a plan. Exactly, and hopefully I'll

be able to say just like Hannibal after everything's

done. I love it when a plan comes together. Oh

Thank God you were talking about that one not

the other one cuz Steve loves talking about the

other one Especially when I say keep those film

reels rolling Knock it off, you know, I hate

that. All right for me everybody, please I am

As much as we've talked about podcasting problems

and dealing with podcasts and all that stuff,

I know I'm crazy. I generally love to drag out

podcasts over two years. Steve knows this. Tooncast

Classic was two years. Tooncast Beyond is going

on four years now. Pecan Court Michael and I

are doing 104 podcasts in 104 days for our Phineas

and Ferb Review Show, the podcast organization

without a cool acronym. I gotta say, this is

probably the hardest I have ever worked in my

podcasting quote unquote career because... Not

only am I recording it and you know Michael's

busy. He's got a wife two kids all that stuff.

He works and you know Michael and Steve are very

similar with their their family lives as far

as that and on so for me Essentially only having

a girlfriend and no other real life to speak

of You know I do all the work and I get all the

post done I get all the everything done the recording

the editing all that stuff We have edited and

gotten the first 26 20 set well I've got the

first 26 episodes ready to go posted edited And

ready to be published. We've published the first

11 so far 11 days out of 104 and Like I said,

this is the hardest I've ever worked I didn't

even work this hard on TFG one podcast and that

show sucked It'll generation one 1984 anyway,

so with that we'll be closing the show So until

next time get altered geek geeky with the altered

geeks