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Toy Collecting and Star Wars Discussion

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About this Episode

Mike and Dave discuss their perspectives on action figure collecting, including the rise of retro-style figures, the shift toward six-inch scales, and their preferences for articulated versus static collectibles. They also touch on their personal history with Star Wars, the importance of detailed playsets, and the lore of the Warhammer 40,000 universe. The conversation closes with their thoughts on the current state of Marvel media and the Disney Plus Star Wars series.

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only toy podcast you will ever need Wake up,

wake up, wake up. Ow. Hello and welcome to Toycast.

This is episode 181 here on the GeekCast radio

network I'm of course TF2 on Mike and joining

me is a longtime friend someone who his Toy World

is kind of out of order at this point, but it

is none other than Mr. Dave Draper. Hi, Dave.

I'm still alive, which these days seems to be

an accomplishment. Ain't that the truth? I'm

not dead yet. I'm getting better. Getting better,

but I'm getting older. So yeah, Toycast, we are...

I've always tried... There's a million toy news

podcasts out there and your lovely show that

you and Deval had was was awesome and I loved

listening to it and everything else, but I never

Felt the need to do toy news here on toy cast

because There were so many other things Well,

you know, I always kind of I don't think it was

toy news per se I think it was like, you know,

we would talk It was never breaking news. Hasbro

was going to stop doing vintage figures. It was

just like, here's the new stuff. What do we think

about it? Yeah, absolutely. But you're still

reacting to the news. You're not reporting the

news. You're not the ones creating it. But I

never thought when Toycast started way back in

2009, when did we start Toycast? Yeah, July 2009.

I wanted it to be different. That's why we have

display case where we come on and we each talk

about a toy in our collection. We pick one out.

We talk about it. We say what we like. We don't

like. And then we move on kind of thing. But

you had said something to me recently. You reached

out and you're like, Hey, I need to join the

empire. I'm like, I thought you were a Jedi.

Why do you want to join the empire? Oh, my friend,

you do not know me at all. I know. No, I know.

I know you are. It's weird. I am the one Star

Wars fan. I'm saying things for hyperbolic effect,

so I don't get this. I always liked that too,

but I was the one Star Wars fan who Luke wasn't

my hero. I never wanted to be a Jedi. I never

wanted a lightsaber. I was a Han Solo guy. Give

me a fast ship, talking dog, and a blaster, and

I'm happy. And of course, you shot first. Absolutely.

That's what she said. You know, you get older

but uh, yeah, like like the fact that they've

completely ruined the lightsabers in Star Wars

I'm sort of sad about it, but I'm not like angry

about it. I'm just like and I only did the Jedi

quests in Star Wars galaxies to get like the

this is sad I actually did the Jedi quest in

Star Wars galaxies to get the stuff Like you

got like little decorations if you did the quest

and I'm like, ooh Chachki's things a little back

to tank to put in your your little house This

is this is true. This is absolutely true. I did

the entire quest line just to get like the crap

That's how my brain works. I'm an acquisitive

little I'm an overgrown Ferengi. Basically. I

just I like stuff. I know what the wrong franchise

That's a trick thing I Love you, man. You're

awesome Dave. Thank you. But yeah, no, I mean

and I'm perfectly fine adding in reactionary,

specific toy news reactionary thing. Whatever

you want to do, we can do on the show. That's

fine by me. I just didn't want, at the beginning

when we started this, I didn't want it, like

I said, there are a million and one other toy

podcasts out there that do reactionary news,

whatever you want to call it. And that's why

we did display cases. That's why we did other

things. That's why we had more conversations.

And this is a conversation just like anything

else. Go ahead. Yeah. I mean, we would have conversation.

I mean, we would have, you know, again, it wasn't

just like a hot take. It was a conversation about

a thing. Like, you know, the example I think

we used before we started recording was that

Hasbro just announced that they're going to do

a retro series for Ahsoka. Right. And my attitude

is I don't like it when they do that for things

that aren't. In the larger conversational sense.

I'm sick of retro things that were never retro

You know what I mean? Yeah, like we live in 2023

it's cute that they gave chopper a sticker like

r2d2 but I also because I I prefer the vintage

collection so it's like I would like a vintage

collection chopper I would like you know, I don't

know why making toys from things from it's cool

when they do it for the actual retro figures

because that way I can get like a Card good morning

guard for less than a thousand dollars, you know,

right? Yeah, but like there was never there is

no nostalgia for a thing that never existed Yeah,

which is weird like like the only one the only

retro kind of thing that I would actually kind

of be excited about is if they did like Mego

Star Wars because that was like a what -if, you

know Famously Mego passed on Star Wars and it

destroyed the company and so like to have Mego

style Star Wars figures would be really kind

of interesting and cool a what -if but like,

you know I'm just, I just, I'm tired, like it's

like, we had like 25th G .I. Joe and we had vintage,

whatever you want to call it, Star Wars. We had

these amazing sculpts and articulation and accessories.

And then just all of a sudden we just hit the

brakes and suddenly decided we're just going

to go back to everything. We're either going

to go back or go six inches. And I'm like, yeah,

yeah. Once you go six inches, you never go back.

Okay, but good luck getting good luck getting

a 16 scale Millennium Falcon. No, it's a scale

Aircraft carrier. Yeah, I know. Yeah, but like

for me the way I see action figures like Alright,

so I don't have my toy. I have a toy collection.

It's not the toy collection I had from 2005 to

2011. It's not your standard whatever but I do

have several like You know of three zero, right?

The company 3 -0? Yeah. OK. Well, they do these

MDLX things now. So I have Gold Bug and Cliffjumper.

It's non -transforming. I don't care. Because

for me, I'm 43 years old. And I want to clarify

this for the audience, folks. I'm younger than

he is. He's older than I am, as he said earlier.

He's a decade younger than I am. Oh. You're only

53. 52. OK. Well, happy early or belated or whatever.

So for me, at my age, where I am mentally, I

don't need my toys to transform. That's why I

love Funko. Optimus Prime can just sit here.

R2 can just sit here. Batman can just sit here.

And all I have to do is tap their heads. It's

one of those things like I understand I completely

understand I understand the logic of it and as

an owner of many Marvel legend figures Sometimes

articulation is not a great thing And of course,

they're always second -rate characters They have

to be in the back that flop over and like cause

a huge tidal wave. I get it But at the same time

there's just maybe it's me. Maybe it's a stubbornness

inside of me that that I'm buying a toy like

like it's it's the toy like it's still I'm buying

a toy. If I buy a statue, it's a different thing.

I want that toy to have certain characteristics

of being a toy, which is articulation, which

is sculpt. I want it to look good. I want it

to be able to pose it. I might never play with

it. I might just like for 10 seconds out of the

package go, and then put it on a shelf. It gathers

dust for a decade. But it's just something in

me. I'm not one of those guys that hates Funko

Pops, but it's a little too streamlined. It's

a little too simplistic. It's it's not my thing.

It's just You know, I'm and I'm at this point.

I'm resigned to paint you like at this point

in my whole life I'm resigned to paying a premium

for the stuff that I want like I want physical

media for like movies and stuff If it has to

be a niche thing and I had I got to pay extra

just get DVDs of things I'm fine with that Just

as long as I get them if I got to pay more for

an articulated four inch figure than people are

paying for a stupid six inch figure that they're

just gonna you know, okay, cuz that's That's

my thing. That's what I started with. That's

what I collect. That scale is my jam. Yeah. And

when I was going to say earlier about, you know,

when I made the joke about, you know, once you

go six inch, you never go back. I don't mind

action figures that are four, you know, four

inch, five inch, six inch, seven inch. Fine.

That's the action fit. That's why I was bringing

up the three zero MDLX cliff jumper and gold

bug. That size class is fine for the action figures

but now when you get into something you mentioned

earlier about the the flag and the and the and

the whatever and all the bigger ones Those are

bases. Those are play sets to me. Those aren't

like regular figures So yeah, those are gonna

have to be bigger but those are accessories Those

are those are they are accessories. They are

part of the line absolutely, and this is an interesting

question is like where you draw the line because

like I remember when I when I got into superpowers,

like I didn't get all the vehicles and stuff

because I was just like, look, look, the figures

cost enough. Yeah. But like I, you know, it's

sort of like you can have the guys just standing

there or, you know, you can have your your your

six inch Han Solo just standing there because

there's nothing for him. And then I have my four

inch one sitting in a cockpit next to Chewie,

next to Luke, next to, you know, to Leia, you

know, like I love this as you may have picked

up from the thing about stars. I love the stuff.

I love The little accessories and the big accessories

and the monsters and the vehicles and the bases

I love all that stuff and at a 16th scale you're

not gonna get much of it and What you are gonna

get is pretty much gonna have to go straight

through like, you know has lab did a his tank

for classified Mm -hmm. They did a sail barge

for vintage They did this ginormous complex multi

-room playset for the vintage line and then they

did Because this thing's a pretty basic bitch.

Can we curse? Yes. It's pretty basic bitch for

G .I. Joe. I own a lot of them. That's kind of

one of my things that I specifically collect.

It's a pretty simple design. And that's what

you're going to get for G .I. Joe. I mean, they'll

probably get a vamp. I know they got the motor,

they got the jump cycle. But like, you're not

going to get, you're not going to get a sky striker

for last flight. If they has lab it, It'll be

so expensive that people will throw a tantrum

and like not want to buy it, you know. So let

me ask you, you say it's going to be so expensive.

Is it going to be more expensive than Unicron?

Unicron was six hundred dollars. Unicron was

two feet tall. Do you realize the reason I didn't

get it is because literally that toy was unreasonably

big. I can't imagine people having not having

problems with it standing up. Not having problems

with pieces falling off of it like so like it's

got a break super because you know Like how do

you maneuver it? Like you've got to hold on to

it and move it and it's a two foot tall hunk

of plastic I imagine people break stuff on that

all the time. Maybe they don't but like I just

I just I just know from my own experience moving

stuff around that you've always got to like find

a good handhold You know because if you you know

with that sail bar You got to get it from underneath

because you touch anything on the top. It'll

pop off. It'll break Yeah, you gotta get it from

the belly of the beast. The Unicron, if I ever

had it, which I don't even really want it at

all, I would keep it in planet mode. I would

find a way, like, this is how old man I am, folks.

I would get one of the hanging hooks for plants

and stuff. Instead of having a plant, I would

put it in planet mode and I would hang it. Right

next to my transformers posters in my living

room and just have it hanging there Like it's

a planet in the middle of the space of my really

I wouldn't have I would never have it in robot

mode never My friend, I think you need to reach

out to the kink community to get the rigging

to hang that thing from the ceiling I don't think

a plant thing is gonna do it. Okay, but I'm just

saying like I think the ceiling Yeah, it would

pull down the ceiling. Yeah, that's yeah, but

my point. Yeah. Yeah, but again, I don't want

it I I just I I think it's cool. I think it's

awesome I love that people were able to get it

to add it to their Transformers collection and

have like a Transformers the movie, you know

seen kind of thing but man That toy. Yeah, I

mean, I mean I've got the what Armada. I've got

the Armada Unicron. That's fine for me Yeah,

but I don't like again. I don't it's weird whenever

they they do one of these things There's always

like some contingent of some other toy line.

That's butthurt about it Like why'd you do that

instead of doing one of our things? Come on guys.

I I just The whole community is weird. Yep. So

Mike and Dave talk toys. What else you want to

talk about? Okay. Well, first of all, like my

thing now my big obsession is Warhammer well,

like There's this company called Joy Toy, and

they started doing 4 inch scale, which is my

scale, Warhammer toys, and yeah, that kind of

got out of control fast. But ironically, it's

slowing down for the same reason that people

are having issues with the actual game, which

is that Joy Toy, West End I think is what it's

called, or maybe not, but the company that actually

makes Warhammer, they focus too much on the Marines.

And not enough on the cool alien stuff. Sorry.

It's like, okay I've got the green marine and

the gold marine and the purple. I don't have

the purple marine yet I want the purple marine

because those are cool. But uh Like I've got

I've got Marines like I want the giant dinosaur

space bugs Like please please give me tyrannids.

Please give me Drukari. I want these I will buy

these right but that's that's that's kind of

my thing with toys in general is is like Look,

just make the thing and I'll buy it. Yeah like

Just please just make the thing I want and I'll

buy it. Hasbro just announced like the bunch

of stuff for for Ahsoka. They did the black series

figures and they have like all the characters

and then the vintage series and it's like three

characters. It's like ugh. So I got the three

characters that they actually did even though

they're not the best characters in the show and

it's just like eee. I still need I still need

still need Stellan Skarsgård from Andor. Please

please. I beg of you Hasbro. He's the best character

on the show. He's so cool. I love him and or

so good. Please make him in foreign scale, please

Please yeah, that's what I mean good. I was gonna

say in Disney, please cuz you're not now You're

starting to crack and put stuff out on physical

media. I got all that locked down immediately

Please put and or out on physical media before

you guys get the bright idea. This costs a lot

of money We can get a tax write -off on it. Please

Please let me get my grubby hands on the DVDs

That's one that everybody it's weird. Everybody

slept on that and I don't know. It's that's like

the one really good thing That's come out of

Disney Star Wars So I'm on the Joy Toy website

Explain Warhammer to me because I have never

this is the first time I'm seeing these there's

there's a meme About like it's one of those like

Chad girl memes and the girl goes tell me about

Warhammer And then the whole thing is like filled

with like text dialogue, and she's like I regret

my decision Okay, so there's there's it started.

I think is a fantasy game. There's also like

a separate game. That's a it's a miniature war

game set in the year 40 ,000 and it's sort of

like Humankind kind of had Star Trek times, but

then everything collapsed And it's had this weird

sort of like regression And there was this one

figure who was kind of this immortal character

who was very powerful almost godlike Who tried

to lead humanity into this new age of enlightenment?

and reason and reject religion. And he was creating

this group of warriors to help them reunite the

human race, because the Star Trek times had collapsed.

And everybody was scattered across the galaxy.

And there were many, many aliens that were enemies

or opponents or dangerous. It was based on fantasy

things. So there were elves and orcs. The orcs

are crazy. The orcs are gloriously crazy. And

there's also terrifying space bug dinosaurs that

are like, if the xenomorph and the borg had a

baby, oh, the tyrannids are so good. But at the

same time, the way they traveled hyperspace is

like this alternate reality or this like different

plane of existence that absorbs all emotions.

And those negative emotions have like coalesced

and festered and turned into like demon gods.

So they've been attacking, they've been breaking

through an attacking reality. I'm doing a not

particularly great job of explaining this. I

get it. So they ended up trying to thwart this

guy who became the, they call him the emperor

of mankind. Okay. And he's been on earth forever.

He's like the Highlander. He's been on earth

forever. And he was trying to reunite humanity,

trying to bring them into this age of enlightenment.

And they, he created these like, not exactly

clones of himself, but like sort of like his

He created in the lab his sons, his 12 sons,

or 20 sons, the Primarchs. And then they had

the Space Marines. From their lines, they had

the Space Marines, which are the guys in the

big hulking armor. And then the forces of chaos

seduced his favorite son, Horus, and lied to

him and manipulated him. And he betrayed his

father, and he launched a war against Earth,

and he came within a hair's breadth of winning,

and he lost, but he... the Emperor basically

had to kind of sacrifice himself to keep Keep

everything like he's basically trapped on this

throne of gold That's actually like a machine

that's powered by psychic energy But he's kind

of like a living corpse, but he's keeping the

Empire stable, but he can't do anything There's

a YouTube series called what if the Emperor had

speech or text to speech which is funny But basically

he can barely communicate with anybody And what

has happened, this was in the year 30K, now it's

40K, 10 ,000 years later, and the guy who tried

to eliminate all religion has had this massive

religion built up around him. And the human empire

is all like, he's worshiped, he's revered, there's

an acquisitorial branch that looks for heresy

all the time. It's a complete reverse of everything

he stood for. And all the good Primarchs are

gone, asterisk. And all the bad Primarchs have

turned, like half the Primarchs turned to evil,

turned to chaos. And half the Primarchs stayed

loyal. So it's basically just like the universe

is getting, like the whole thing is everything's

getting worse and worse. This is where the term

Grimdark, you ever heard that before? This is

the origin of Grim, this is literally the origin

of Grimdark. Everything's dark, everything's

terrible. Most people live miserable lives, like

slaving away at some job, kind of like reality,

but like, just life is very cheap. And of course,

they're fighting war. They have no allies. Every

alien race is considered an enemy. There's a

lot of mutants and mutants are considered the

enemy. Almost everybody's like against humanity.

There's a lot of stuff going on with the alien

races. It's also kind of its own, could be its

own whole story. And the current, the game is

in its 10th edition, just 10th edition just came

out. And the focus now is on my beloved Tyranids.

They've had three invasions so far and they've

lost. This is the next invasion and this one's

finally coming towards earth Okay, it's like

a the big push and these things like sweep over

an entire planet Wipe out every they literally

take everything like they build these huge digestion

pools and they drag every piece of organic matter

into those pools and digest them and then they

absorb the genetic material and then they change

they adapt and like It's a I'm sort of running

out of steam here There's multiple chapters of

Space Marines that, you know, have different

powers. Like, each one has, like, weird... Like,

there's one that are, like, the Space Vampires,

there's the Space Werewolves. The reason why

I asked you is because I'm on the Joy Toy website.

I'm looking at the Warhammer 40 ,000 action figures,

and there are, like, three or four that speak

out to me that I'm like, ooh, that's cool. The

Ultramarine's intercessor, he has a sword. He

has a sword, he's blue, there's one, same one,

Ultramarine's Terminator's brother, Uranus, he

has this giant Gatling gun, I love that. Yeah,

the Ultramarines are like, I don't know how to

put it, they're like the team that always, like

they're the most well -known, they're the largest

unit of Space Marines, also kind of the basic

Becky Space Marines, but they're run, when I

did the Asterisk, they're run by, their prime

arc was called Reboot Gilman. It was about as

close to a good guy as Warhammer gets. He's been

brought back to life. Well, he was sort of like

in stasis for a long, long time. And they brought

him back. So they actually have a figure of him,

which is coming out soon, and it's all the money.

But he's now kind of taking over the role of

the emperor. And what I love about it is he's

from the time when the emperor was like, we've

got to stop religion, we've got to be rational.

And now he's taking over this empire that worships

his dad basically as a god and he's got to walk

this fine line between like this is everything

we fought against yeah but in order to keep humanity

from being wiped out i gotta like play the game

so i kind of love that guy uh but yeah holy crap

it's it's so twisted and dark and messed up so

again i'm on their website looking through their

toy listings ultramarines, Primark, Roboth, Gilamon?

Giant orange bladed sword a hundred and forty

dollars. Yep. That's for I mean, they're four

inch scale Yeah, now they're actually bigger

like if you put a storage for your next time

They're bigger than them because they are big

like the the Space Marines are big and the Primarchs

are huge. They're Giants. I Mean he looks great

It looks cool. The figures are amazing They got

all this detail and articulation and they're

just they're like I got one just for like I got

a Space Marine just for the heck of it because

I knew about Warhammer. And it was like, this

is so good. And now I have like hundreds of them.

And they haven't even gotten like they haven't

got to the Necrons yet, which are basically like

Terminator, like like Terminator skeletons that

have been possessed by alien souls. And then

there's like there's the Tao that are like generic.

They're the tower kind of like aliens that have

like apparently that was like an appeal to the

anime crowd because their mechs all look very

anime looking. OK. But they got their own weird

space communists thing going on. There are no

good guys in this. Like, Reboot's about the closest

to a good guy. So it's villains versus villains?

I mean, it's more like, you know, in a situation,

people are doing what they have to to survive.

OK, got it. And there's not a lot of scanning

on principle. You could argue that the orcs are

actually one of the few quote good guys because

they were literally created to fight wars. That's

all they do. There's no malice. If you're a dangerous

opponent, that makes them happy. They want a

good fight. That's all they want is a good fight.

They're the warriors. They may not be honorable,

but they're those warriors that want that challenge,

that want the standard heroes type Characteristic.

Well, kind of. And then the cool thing about

them is they have this power, this weird power

nobody understands, where if they believe something

is true, it's true. So it's like if a dude builds

a machine and he's like, that can work, it'll

work. And if the humans capture it, it's garbage,

because it shouldn't work. Right. And they believe

that red goes faster. So they paint all their

vehicles red because they go faster. I think

red goes faster, yellow is lucky, and purple

is invisible. Oh, then I want the purple. Because

have you ever seen a purple orc? No. Exactly.

No. That's funny. That's awesome. Well, that's

what I loved about doing the deep lore thing

on YouTube. And it was great because you do deep

lore on the Tyranid, you do deep lore on the

Eldari. And it's all these beautiful paintings

and it's very kind of like dark and sinister

and, you know, a little H .R. Giger -ish, you

know, kind of cool. And then it got to the orcs

and it was all stuff from the 80s. It was all

like 2000 AD, like, you know, Judge Dredd looking

crazy nonsense. And I'm like, I love these guys.

They're crazy. That's so cool. So cool, so cool.

All right. What else do you want to talk about?

I don't know. What else is on your mind? Dude,

I thought this was just like a job interview

where I was just going to pitch my idea for a

thing and I didn't know how to come up with material.

Hey, you know, I don't know. I am the Watcher.

I am your guide through these vast new realities.

Follow me and ponder the question, what if? How

about that Marvel Universe? That was a thing,

huh? I know, right? Oh, that's cool. I've said

this on a lot of podcasts recently. Once you

name your film end game How do you continue on

from that? Like WandaVision was okay. It was

a nice little character thing I liked Winter

Soldier because I liked Sam and I like Bucky

a little bit, but I like I was there for Sam

more than anything else Hawkeye was my favorite

the rest of it after that. I don't know like

I don't I don't care about the attraction. It's

not that I like I just I don't care. I'll go

watch something else I will say the more I see

of the marvels. I'm kind of excited for that

I saw like a feature at thing where they're all

like getting together and doing very it was like

one of these I Understand companies have to promote

we have to promote podcasts here at the GCR and

all the time but You release a teaser trailer.

You release the first theatrical trailer that

is longer than the teaser and Then they start

doing all these TV spots because they want the

stuff to like they want a short clipped version

to be on TV And I'm like, oh god, I'm just so

I just want to see one trailer and then see the

damn movie However with some of these things

lately, what was it? Oh, it's Ahsoka. I watched

every special feature every bonus YouTube video

the Star Wars YouTube channel put out because

I was so I'm so excited for Ahsoka to see what's

going on because I just Finished for the first

time ever Finally finished Clone Wars and I blitzed

through rebels to to be to be ready for Ahsoka

And I liked rebels rebels was great rebels was

awesome. You know, it's funny. I love Star Wars,

but I just I watched like the first Probably

the first four or five season the Clone Wars.

I mean There were there are only what like four?

Yeah, yeah, it's the Clone Wars Yeah, I always

kind of like always kind of compared that to

mash. We're like the show went on longer than

the war. Um You know, I just it was like, I don't

know The ending of season seven of Clone Wars

when they came back after whatever hiatus it

was because I know they brought it back specifically

for Whatever Disney Plus or whatever the hell.

Yeah, Disney Plus season 7 was awesome But I've

also heard really good I've never really got

into rebels, but I've heard really good things

about it from my parents So my and I again, sorry

folks if I'm repeating myself, I repeat repeat

myself a lot My biggest two biggest problems

with rebels one was with the show one was with

The network it was on at the time when it was

airing Cartoon Network buries action cartoons.

They they they bury them. They will put them

look look I grew up in the 80s I am perfectly

fine watching Transformers at 6 a .m. Before

I have to catch the bus to school fine, whatever

But like I could never catch Clone Wars or rebels

or any of that stuff. So I'm glad it's on Disney

Plus I can watch it on my own time. I can strike

and marathon it if I want whatever so I finally

caught up with all of it and My other big turnoff

to Rebels was Season 1, Ezra. Oh, I thought he

was a little bitch. I thought he was just so,

like, ugh. That was Season 1, Ezra. Season 2

through 7, he gets better and he goes through

things. He's not my favorite character in that

show. Favorite character is probably either Hera,

Sabine, or well, Ahsoka shows up. I mean, how

can you not love Captain Rex? You know. But yeah,

no, I don't know where you stopped. You said

you watched four or five seasons. Of Clone Wars,

yeah. Of Clone Wars, yeah. I remember the one

with the weird father, mother, sister, brother?

Yeah. But not the Nights Sisters. There were

three super powerful force entities. Because

it wasn't the Nightsisters, because I know from

Star Wars lore who the Nightsisters are. Okay.

Although it was like, suddenly Darth Maul was

from Dathomir, and I was like, what? And he had

a brother and... Oh, Savage, yes, yes, I know

what you're talking about now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, but what I was talking about was there

was one where Anakin and Obi -Wan, or at least

Anakin runs into these like... They're not the

night sisters. It's like these they're like these

unique personifications of the force or they're

these beings All right, and there's like three

of them. Yep. I know what you're talking about

You know, it's just like it just got like it

got weird and complicated and it's just like

look Yeah, they were going to the they were trying

to find the living force and then find the the

death force or like the afterlife or what he

was trying they were trying to get Qui -Gon they

were trying to connect with Qui -Gon which Qui

-Gon was dead at the time uh Qui -Gon pretty

much still is dead but yeah yeah apparently it's

because he was an angry Mike that's the secret

to surviving being stabbed with a lightsaber

blade is you have to be really really angry about

it didn't you watch Obi -Wan oh lord Obi -Wan

don't get me started And and all I can think

of is that other universe, that's my secret Dave.

I'm always angry. He's always angry. Oh Man Alrighty

folks, I think that's gonna do it a short episode

this time around Anything you want to say sir?

Anything you want to promote if you want to tell

people where they can follow what you don't do

on social media? Whatever you want to say. I

mean I The whole point of reaching out to you

is so I have something to do or talk about again.

Sure. It's like, please love me, accept me, like

this show. Because I got nothing. I got nothing.

I got R2. Yeah, well, I got an R2 -D2 toaster.

It doesn't talk. It does. Does it really? Absolutely.

Give me one second. Oh no. More than meets the

eye. Autobots, roll out. That's a lot. It talks.

I realize I'd have to plug it in. Oh no, that's

fine. Yeah, it makes noise. It whistles and beeps

and lights up. I have no idea how good the toast

is. You cooked any toast in it? Wow. I just haven't

gotten any bagels since I got it. Hmm. Very cool,

very cool. But of course the R2D2 toaster makes

noise. It's also plastic, which is what you will

want in a toaster. Oh boy, yeah, I guess. I don't

know, my toaster. No, no, that's called sarcasm,

my friend. Oh, there you go. Yeah, no, plastic.

Bagels? No, not plastic bagels, like the toaster

is made of plastic. I understand that, but if

you put the bagels in there, hopefully the plastic

doesn't melt into them. Well, hopefully the plastic

doesn't melt anywhere. That seems like a design

flaw. Yeah. But I mean, it's neat. Yeah, it is.

The first time you push down the thing and it

beeps and twerps, it's like, oh, that's kind

of cool. I cook food in this. I kept the old

poster. Yeah. You always keep the old toaster.

Just in case. Just in case. You know, the R2

-D2 toaster would be funny. Like you said, it

makes noise and all that. It would be funny if

what it prints on the, like the, whatever's on

the coils on the inside was a C -3PO face. They

have that for Darth Vader, I know. Right, yeah.

Yeah. That's hilarious. Yeah, no, I... I got

nothing to plug right now. I'm just happy to

be anywhere. Cool. 2023, guys. It's 30th anniversary

for 1993. Yeah, I'm right. Yeah, because 80s

is 40th anniversary. Yeah, that's Jurassic Park's

30th. Yeah, Jurassic Park's 30th this year. Super

Mario Brothers, the movie 30th this year. What

else came out in 93? Greatest movie ever made.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3. Pizza is it's

a pizza. Maybe it's a frisbee also good That

flying burnt pizza Mikey made back in time oh

man that movie I Love that movie. I do too. It's

not it's not better or worse than the other two,

but I dig that movie I thought it was more clever

than it had a right being to be the third Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. Yep, absolutely.

All right, well folks, I think that's gonna do

it for us. I am gonna run through what I usually

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