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Kenner Knight 2000 Voice Car and Knight Rider’s 40th Anniversary

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About this Episode

Steve and Josh celebrate Knight Rider's 40th anniversary by discussing Knight Rider toys and Josh's incredible find: a 1983 Kenner Knight 2000 voice car with Michael Knight figure for just four dollars at a toy show. They explore Josh's extensive Michael Knight figure collection, his personal history with the character despite never seeing the show, and his creative approach to building his own toy stories around the character and toys. They also touch on other notable toy finds and recommend checking out their companion podcast Beyond the Knight, which reviewed the original Knight Rider series.

Hey everybody, it's Chuck and Stacey from VO

Buzz Weekly. And you are listening to Geek Geek,

Geek, Geek, Geek, Geek, Geek, Geek, one more,

one more. Hey everybody, it's Chuck and Stacey

from VO Buzz Weekly. That's right. And you're

listening to Geek Cast Radio Network every day

because they rock. Michael, is that you? Yeah,

it's me, buddy. He can't hear you. Oh, OK. Tell

him I'm fine and I'm looking forward to working

with him. Me too, bro. Sickbay ain't my style.

I'm the Knight Industries 2000. Sure enough,

ready to ramble, ready to roll, ready to strut

my stuff. Does he always talk like that? No,

absolutely not. Does he always talk like that?

No. He's just picked up a few colloquialisms

during his reprogramming. I'm working on it.

Speaking of working... Oh, yeah. Look, uh, let's

get out of here and get a cup of coffee, huh?

Let's drop my stuff. Cliffjumper. Commence countdown.

Five. Four. Three. Two. Toy cast oh yes Listen

to the only toy podcast you will ever need Welcome

to toy cast this is episode 152 I am of course

Steve Joe and Mike joining me as always is Josh

the floor burger. Hello, sir. How are you? I?

Couldn't complain every day is a treat Well,

you could but it wouldn't get you anywhere. I've

been complaining all my life and It doesn't get

you anywhere. But tonight We are celebrating

sort of a little bit early September 26 1982

September 26 2022 40th anniversary of Knight

Rider first of all folks before you finish listening

to this episode of this podcast Heading over

to beyond the night Which is the Knight Rider

podcast my buddy Dion and I did from 2012 to

2014, where we reviewed every single episode

of the classic series, the 1991 reunion film,

team Knight Rider from the 90s. We did not do

Knight Rider 2010 because Knight Rider 2010 is

not in continuity. And then we did do the 2008.

Reboot not reboot continuation series so head

on over there, but tonight Josh and I are gonna

be talking about Knight Rider toys Noice So I

guess I think we said this in the last episode,

but you found the knight 2000 voice car at some

function for like four dollars, you bastard.

So let me ask you this. Uh huh. Let me ask you

this. Yes? I could retell that story. Uh huh.

Or should I reiterate some of my history with

Knight Rider? You can do both. That will anger

you. I mean. Oh. Really? You're going to try

to one -up me on Knight Rider? I have autographed

pictures of David Hasselhoff. David Hasselhoff

held my hand in 1986. No, no, no. And while I

found that very endearing, I find that your contact

with him as a child had to be very important

for you. Oh, yeah. So the truth is, I have one,

two, three, four. Five technically Michael Knight

action figures. I have five Okay Four he's a

little obsessed folks four are the 1983 Kenner

Knight writer figures one is the more recent

reaction I don't have super seven or Funko, but

the reaction that's the other reaction is super

seven So I have five figures I'm going through

the count again in my head. Wait, one... I...

Okay, I might be missing one. I don't know where...

This is really good pod - I always say this whenever

I get stuck somewhere. This is great podcasting.

Where'd it go? He's lost his ever -living mind,

folks. At a point. This is gold, Jerry. Gold!

Oh god, I am looking at this... Wait, what? Hold

on, pause. Okay, okay, pause, fine. Goodbye,

pal. Michael, I may not be flesh and blood, but

I am a friend. And I wish you happiness. But

I still don't understand. In a way... Neither

do I. Yo, Michael! You're not getting away that

easy. You got a goodbye party to go to. Oh, thanks,

R .C. You already said my goodbyes. Hey, man.

I haven't known you that long, but everything

I've seen and heard about you tells me you're

not the kind of guy to take the easy way out.

Now, Bonnie and Devin, they've been to hell and

back with you, man. They want to say goodbye.

Look, hey, if I have to throw a flying tackle,

you're not leaving them cold. You're still hurting,

man. I may even be able to take you. $20? Are

you kidding me? It doesn't even look like him.

This is ridiculous. Who the hell drew that? Oh

my god. I understand. Ready to receive data.

Commence transmission. Okay, this is actually

kind of driving me nuts. I can't find... I know

I have one downstairs, one here. I have one in

the car. Okay. Maybe another one up here. Well,

it's okay. It's fine. Boy, what a day. It's not

over yet, lady. Who did that? I did. And unless

you want to meet a similar fate, madam, I suggest

you keep your amble derriere off my hood. Watch

your language, young man, or I'll report you

to the principal. Oh, I'm sure it's fine. I just

will obsess about it later. So you have five

different Michael Knight action figures, four

of which you know where they are, one you don't

know where it is currently. Correct. I missed

it. Okay. One I actually am a little concerned

to where it wound up, but we'll find it Yeah,

eventually and I am on I believe Soup yeah, I'm

on super sevens website looking at the Michael

Knight reaction figure They got the hair right

they got the jacket right they got the shirt

and the pants right but holy Fucking hell does

that not look like David's face and who the hell

drew the damn chest hair on him because it looks

like a bunch of ants are crawling right below

his throat so small correction i actually have

six if i okay if i can fuck that last one wherever

it may be so the next one is a mini mate version

okay i have the mini mate Car and the figure

I think that was sent to me by someone in the

toy world order group and I really feel bad I

don't remember who it was, but it was a very

appropriate fantastic gift. So if you're listening

Thank you. If you're not listening, you should

be listening. Yes. Yes, you should and I hope

you hear this so anyways So yes, so I have a

couple of figures the first figure I got was

when I was traveling down to Southern Illinois

stopped at a flea market a guy was selling a

box of toys that when I looked through it, he

didn't really seem to know what he had. He knew

they were older toys. He probably saw one of

the leg stamps or something like that, which

most uninformed sellers of toys, that's what

they look for because that's the easiest thing

to find out if they have anything of value is

the age. So by identifying 1983, it's older.

Now, if they know anything about toy companies,

Tenor is usually one that in the early 80s was

something of value. So that's where that comes

from. Anyways, looking through, I didn't buy

the box because of Michael Knight. I saw him,

didn't know what the figure was at first. It

was because I saw that there were a couple of

Masters of the Universe figures and accessories

and pieces that were quite valuable. So I looked

up at the guy. I said, I'd like to take the whole

box. What would you do on it? And he said, 50.

And I had 50 bucks on me. So I said, cool, let's

go for it. I was giddy with excitement. My buddy

Mark was a little unsure about that price because

I didn't even try to haggle it. But when I ended

up selling a whole lot of the stuff out of that

box and making really, really good money off

of it, it all worked out in the end. So when

I was looking through the box, I think he had

stopped to get a haircut. He was coming up from

Florida for the first time in a little over a

year. And he wanted to get a haircut from the

person who cut his hair previously, which was

a nice little vacation stop for him. So while

he was doing that, I was in the parking lot going

through a bin of toys in this public parking

lot, just spreading it all over an empty spot,

which I got a couple of weird looks, but whatever.

And so I found the Michael Knight figure and

I'm looking at it. And if you've ever seen it,

It's a pretty nondescript basic civilian looking

figure blue jeans brown shoes black jacket red

turtleneck and on the belt is Basically just

a K. That's all all that's on the belt buckle

is a K So I was looking at it and I was thinking

to myself case. So who is this? Who is this guy?

Who could this be? It's a very similar design

to that era Star Wars toy a Kenner Star Wars

toy. So it's got the five points of articulation.

It's a very similar style, but it's a larger

scale. It's between like a five and six inch

scale. I was trying to figure it out and I looked

up Knight Rider figure and I found it and I was

so excited. And I can't remember the initial

interaction that I had when I first started posting

pictures of it in the Toa World Order group.

But I remember having a small interaction with

Dave Draper where In our bantering back and forth,

he finally called me for burger because of the

posters I was I was not the post the pictures

I was posting, excuse me. And. In posting those

pictures of David Hasselhoff, for some reason,

I thought it was funny to put him on a turntable,

a kitchen turntable or lazy Susan, whatever you

want to call it. Right. Yeah. And I put them

on the lazy Susan on a kitchen table at my sister

-in -law's house. and spun him around it while

I was playing on another phone right round, maybe

right round, and I just thought it was really

funny. Right, right. So I started posting stuff

like that and posting pictures of David Hasselhoff

getting drunk and stuff, because he had that

very unfortunate video that was put out of him

inebriated and eating a burger on the floor,

hence where the floor burger name came from,

and I owned it and I loved it. So as time went

on I really enjoyed the figure it started traveling

with me I started having a ton of fun with it

so Eventually, I don't know if I found another

or my mom bought me one as a gift I know I found

one for DOS that he got I think I found one for

Draper or I found the I think it may have been

the Baywatch David Hasselhoff figure for Draper

I gave it to him as a joke So it just kind of

became a thing and the figure started traveling

with me. So then I actually ended up because

I had a second one that meant that kind of had

a stunt double that I could take around with

me. So I wasn't as concerned if I possibly lost

it or something. It went to Disney World with

me. It went to Punta Cana. It went to Las Vegas.

And I remember somebody offering me the Knight

2000. And I don't know if it was the same Knight

2000 that eventually Deval got or not. But it

was night 2000 missing the passenger side door

and the price was High but it was good for the

time It was more than I'd be willing to pay on

something that I've never and this is why you're

gonna be mad at me Not that I have this car not

that I have the toys I have never seen an episode

of Knight Rider in any form shape or form never

Okay, so We are recording this on a Thursday

night, right? Wednesday. Wednesday, Thursday,

whatever. Yeah, after we finish this, I am sure,

yes. Yeah, yeah. You're gonna watch an episode

of Knight Rider tonight. Sure. I'm gonna pick

one of the best ones, and you're gonna watch

it, and you're gonna love it. When I'm not working

on the certification for my new side hustle,

yes, I'll watch it. And so... I've never seen

it and I'll admit I'm actually very interested

in watching it now because I realized there's

a couple of mask vehicles from Kenner that seem

to take certain elements from that and incorporate

it into their vehicles. There's two or three

that I'm thinking of, or maybe it's just that

sports car design from that early 80s era. It's

the Pontiac type design. Matt Tracker's car is

essentially a, it's not a copy. but it's an homage

to like the Trans Am which was kit and then obviously

you have the gullwing doors which is the DeLorean

and and and all of that yeah and then there's

two other vehicles i just don't know the names

of them that use that same sort of body style

for their things so it's a very iconic vehicle

but there was a point where i pretty much decided

that I wasn't going to spend that much money

on an incomplete vehicle. I just could not own

such an iconic vehicle with a door that, when

I did a little research, would be very hard to

find. And it's not easy to find the door. Probably

impossible to find the spoiler, but not easy

to find the door. So I gave up on trying to find

the car, and I started trying to find replacement

cars that I thought would be funnier for David

Hasselhoff or Michael Knight to drive and I decided

that instead of the car Are you familiar with

VR troopers? Oh, yes, so there's one character

from VR troopers in his armored form he's black

red and silver and for all intents and purposes

he looks like he could be the robot version of

kit and Okay, I'll try to send you a picture

in a moment And so I took a Sharpie and sloppily

wrote kit 2 .0 on his chest. And he became essentially

Michael Knight's butler because Michael Knight

in my toy cannon develops a bit of a drinking

problem. He's mischievous. He causes a lot of

problems and he likes to drive a lot. So he needs

a robot butler to make sure he's okay. And that's

my toy cannon. And so Michael Knight. started

driving the Gold Cadillac from Last Action Hero.

And he fits extremely well in it and it's very

fitting. He also fits in the Ecto -1. He also

has ridden in the Turtle Van. He just sort of

shops around vehicles that he fits in. The Batmobile,

anything really that he fits in and can drive.

And so I gave up and I was very, very comfortable

with not finding the car. Every time I saw the

car, it was way beyond anything I could ever

justify buying. Between you and me and everybody

listening, I guess, then too, between you and

me and all of our listeners, I had zero interest

in ever buying it. I gave up on it. It would

be like trying to find a diamond in my toilet.

You just know it's not going to happen. Yeah,

exactly. Because when you were telling me about

this, I know you're going to continue the story,

But when you're telling me about this, I'm like,

ooh, I'm just curious. What does the 1983 Kenner

Knight Rider voice car go for? I saw prices anywhere

from 250 to over $600. Depending on quality.

Well, depending on quality, if it were to, yeah.

I mean, but yeah, that is still. Yeah. Over $200

is way to like, yeah, no. Go ahead. Yeah. So.

What it comes down to was I It's sort of that

old philosophy when you stop looking for something

when you stop wanting it Mm -hmm when you just

say okay. I'm at peace with the world with this

desire It's not a desire anymore. I feel like

sometimes karmically you get it and To save people

the trouble of listening to the three -hour recollection

of when Das visited, I encourage people to listen

to me ramble and say the following phrases several

times. Um, you know, I mean, and like, and I

have to admit. I feel like those are the things

I'm trying to scrub out of my vocabulary. I have

to admit that I was completely— There you go.

You used it. Well, yes, but I have to admit,

I was completely lazy. Normally, I'm not lazy

on editing. I was completely lackadaisical lazy

on the editing of the previous episode of this

podcast, and anyone who listens to that, is it

three? It's not three, it's two hours. Don't

sit there and lie to people. It's two, I got

that down to two hours. And you did great. And

I'm not, this is not, this is not. No, no, no.

I know it's not. Yeah. But so, so when Das came

up to visit, we went to the Volo Antique Mall,

which as you and I have both stated, I live in

Gurney, you used to live in Gurney. It's about

30 minutes straight west of Gurney. Yeah. Now

for our geography curious friends. Gurney is

about 15 minutes south of the Wisconsin border,

northeast side of Illinois, maybe about 10, 15

minutes west of the lake. So hopefully that kind

of gives people an idea. Basically, if you look

at the state of Illinois, folks, and you center

on Chicago, Gurney is about 50 minutes north

of Chicago. That's the easiest way people can...

Yeah, and I'm very much not a Chicago boy. It's

funny because when I worked in Chicago, basically

I worked in Chicago, I used to get made fun of

for being a suburban boy. When I was in the suburbs,

because I grew up next to a farm with sheep and

goats and horses, people are like, oh, in the

suburbs, they were calling me a country boy.

I couldn't win. I was too country for the suburbs,

too suburbs for the city. Where do I go? I don't

know, but anyways. So we go out to the Volo Antique

Mall, which is a very well -known antique mall,

but also it's known because it has the Volo Auto

Museum, it's got the Jurassic Gardens, which

under the advice of our attorneys, we've never

heard of a franchise called Jurassic Park, and

they have rescued Showbiz Pizza Place. audio

animatronics that are pretty functional and they

run them pretty regularly and they serve halfway.

I wouldn't even call it decent pizza. They serve

something that we could all define as pizza in

in in loose terms only. So in in one of the buildings

and two or three of the buildings are linked

together and they're very large buildings and

one of the buildings It's more of a concentration

of collectibles. It's more of a concentration

of toys and kitchy stuff. They're still your

typical antiques, but for the most part, it's

a lot of Hot Wheels toys, primarily some sports

stuff, but there's a lot of toys in there, and

a lot of the toys are very overpriced and some

are fairly priced. Some are terribly, terribly

priced. A toy line that deval collected and deval

if you're listening i'm not making fun of you

on this in the least but it was a bunch of ninja

kangaroos or something. I'm with warriors of

virtue it was a warrior of virtue warriors of

virtue figures which. I'm not saying whether

or not they're good or bad I don't have them

in front of me to really say anything about it

but. There was one booth that has had them there

since I first first started going maybe. Five

years ago six years ago. Okay They have had old

dirty warriors of virtue figures sitting in these

little bins for That length of time trying to

sell them for eight nine ten bucks apiece Nobody

has bought them yet. They don't want to even

change the price I don't even think they want

to look at it like most times you find those

in dig bins for two bucks a piece but somebody

thinks they're going to put their kids through

college on warriors of virtue good for them go

for it I'm happy for you however however we're

walking around I'm finding some cool stuff I'm

I have my arms filled with Several items that

I'm deciding between I feel like I'm a toddler

at Toys R Us and I've got 20 bucks to spend and

80 bucks worth of toys in my arms and We make

almost a full loop we stop into one booth we

step into one smaller booth and I'm at this point

kind of just already Resigned that we're not

gonna find anything and DOS is looking down and

I wish I had this on video Again, one of my greatest

regrets because I enjoyed being present in the

moment, not recording everything, but not recording.

I lost so much good footage that we could have

had to make something out of. It was something

along the lines of he bends down and he's like,

hey, Josh, there's a 92000 here. Takes a couple

seconds to process. I look down, there's the

car. I believe when I reviewed the podcast recently,

I had mentioned to Das that I was worried that

I couldn't remember if when I bent over to pick

it up, I elbowed him square in the head. And

apparently I didn't. He said I didn't. So I pick

it up and I see Michael Knight sitting in there

and I couldn't believe what I found. I couldn't

believe what it was. I'm looking at it and I'm

thinking I'm looking at a toy that's got to be

$50 or more, but even as I'm kind of holding

it, looking at it, examining the body of it,

I'm thinking even for 50 bucks, guessing 50,

60 bucks, this is still a good buy. Now, service

out there on my phone has always been awful.

So trying to get on eBay to do it. So I'm already

going three, four, five steps ahead of, okay,

I need to look this up. I need to see what it's

going for. You see if this is a good deal. I'm

excited because this is the first time I've actually

held one in my hands. I've seen them at toy shows

for $125, $150, $300, $400 if it's in the box,

stuff like that. So we're looking for a price

tag and a lot of the price tags at this show

are those little tiny paper tags that are tied

on a string that you loop around and you hang

them off of an item. Have you ever seen that?

Yeah, yeah. That's where a lot of that is. So

I'm looking for it and I'm looking for that trademark

dangle that I don't see it. I flip over the toy.

I don't see a price tag and they won't sell something

if it doesn't have a price tag and I start freaking

out momentarily. I move my hand and there's the

price tag and I had to message you almost as

soon as this happened. I had to message Deval

and everybody else I knew and look at the bottom.

David Hasselhoff is riding in the driver's seat

of the car the whole time, not even moving. He's

totally set. I see and I still can't believe

it and I don't know if you put the picture in

the show notes of the weekend No, I didn't put

any of the pictures in I need to go back and

do that and it says follow malls number 7 to

6 the booth number inventory number night 2 ,000

description toy car four dollars Four dollars,

uh -huh. Yeah $20 I would have been ecstatic

over $50. I would have felt was a good good deal

$70 I probably would have been tempted but I

think that would have probably put me in a position

where it was a hot no Yeah, you know but Again

like like we said with with you getting it for

$4. You got the figure you got the car But the

voice box doesn't work. So I've been Reading

into that a little bit. I even reached out to

Deval. I think he's familiar with it. He kind

of gave me a couple of tips of what to do. We

were potentially going to see each other mid

-September. I don't know when this episode is

coming out. It's coming out as soon as I edit

it, so it's going to be out before September.

had briefly talked about getting together mid

-September. We're not going to be able to anymore.

I won't be driving down. It's actually for when

Pixel Dan faces Matt Cardona in Springfield,

which is going to be an amazing match. But my,

my mom is coming into visit for the first time

since she moved to Florida almost a year and

a half ago, two years ago. There will be other

matches that will be as fun, but you know, I

want to see my mom. So I can get it fixed. I'm

not worried about it working because the quality

of the voice box is junk and Even if I can get

it to work, it's not gonna be that good. So it's

okay but having this piece I'm looking around

my toy room right now glancing around there's

only one or two other pieces that I can say that

are as Fantastic of a find as this But this is

number one. This is in the years I've been collecting,

including when I was a kid, getting toys when

I was a kid. Yep. This is number one in terms

of not only a miraculous find, but the price

is legendary. I mean, yeah, I, you know, look,

so I have a weird history with the Knight 2000

voice car. I think I know I've mentioned this

to you I've told this story to you I don't know

if I've told this on air but did you ever have

an elementary school like rival like the one

kid that you just don't like because they may

have done the stupidest thing or like you know

I always equate it to the fact that Say what

you will about the man. He is a monster but when

Bill Cosby did his Bill Cosby himself in 1969

he tells the story about him and junior Barnes

and Junior Barnes basically, you know Through

an ice ball down his you know down his shirt

down his pants away You know, it's a get gunk

and ice or whatever He wanted to get revenge

on this junior Barnes and he had this perfectly,

you know form snowball put it in the freezer

and Waited until summer his mother had thrown

this the snowball away. So he just went outside

and spit on him So basically if anyone has ever

had a rival in elementary school like the one

kid the one guy you just don't Get along with

so Can I can I tell my I do have one? Okay, good.

I will not name him. I Do well, so I had several

but I there's always one that's always going

to come to mind I won't give his name. We'll

call him Bobby. There you go. So when I was,

I think, in fourth grade with another friend,

we formed a secret Power Rangers group. So we

would not share. Wait, you were in fourth grade?

Yeah. How young are you? That was 94. It was

probably 94. 93, 94. Oh my god. Oh, that's right.

You were born in 91, weren't you? 84, but that's

close enough. Wait a second. If you were born

in 84, there's no way that you... Okay, anyway,

go ahead. So, fourth grade might have been a

little bit later in age for kids who typically

would like something like Power Rangers. We've

discovered a little late, but we loved it. I

loved Power Rangers from... fourth grade all

the way through I probably stopped watching closer

to eighth grade because it was on a lot so you

couldn't miss it but we we formed a secret Power

Rangers group okay so we would wear our chosen

Power Rangers color to work not work excuse me

school he my friend his name was I'll call Matt

it's not his real name but his name was Matt

Chose the red ranger so he always wore red I

chose the green ranger I always wore green we

had little cardboard morphers that he made and

he was very good at making these little cardboard

morphers That we could fit in our waistbands

and keep them hidden there. That was our secret

like membership badge right and Nobody and that

was like the double cool part of it was that

we were keeping it secret from everybody in fourth

grade But it was also like in the show where

we're keeping that secret identity. So it sort

of really made it feel very real. It was a lot

of fun so Matt had this friend Bobby who I would

unfortunately give away part of his identity

if I explained some of the other reasons why

he was jealous, but let's just say he had a closer

relation to the green ranger that he felt that

I did. Okay. And for a very superficial reason

felt he deserved to be the green ranger and not

the blue ranger. Right. Yeah. And so he was very

mad at me. So he would always try to turn Bobby

or huge, always try to turn Matt against me.

And he always tried to say he should be the green

ranger and I was terrible. And he did some pretty

bad stuff to me. And he was always my rival for

years until we ended up kind of going our separate

ways when we got to the next building in middle

school. But anyways, go ahead. Yeah. So 1985,

I was in kindergarten. 86, I was in first grade.

87, I was in fourth. So basically from 85 to

92 was kindergarten through sixth grade, okay?

All throughout... Kindergarten through sixth

grade there was this kid. I don't care. I've

never never heard from him again So I'm gonna

say his name because I don't know Brian Reed

Brian with an I so it's So at least it's spelled

correctly because Brian is supposed to be spelled

with an I not a Y Anyway, um Brian Reed was my

ultimate Rival in elementary school because of

one simple factor All is I wanted to do is press

the damn license plate and hold the car for five

seconds He had the kenner 83 Voice car I did

not well bastard would not share So that's my

history with this stupid car and I do not have

the excess cash To go on eBay to spend these

enormous prices and I get it. The reason why

they're enormous prices, like you've already

said, depends on condition, depends on this,

depends on that. If it's a mitten sealed box

one, you're going to be spending over $400 and

I just can't justify that at all. But when you

told me that you got like, cause what you told

me initially was, and it was just a brief message.

Oh my God, I found the Kenner night rider voice

car. I got it for $4. And I'm sitting here thinking,

holy crap, he probably got it loose. Obviously

he got it with Michael Knight because he's a

Michael Knight Baywatch whore. And I didn't know

if the, until I actually, until we, until you

and I talked about it, I didn't know whether

the voice box worked or not. And because it doesn't,

I'm like, Oh, okay. That's why it was, that's

why it was $4. I don't think the broken voice

box would drop its value that much because even

the doors by themselves, you can sell the doors

for 30, 40 bucks a pop. The fact that it had

both doors and the frame, the whole car needs

body work. I'm going to take a hairdryer to it.

I have some polish. I'm going to try to rebuild

it so it works a little bit better. For the most

part, I have a shelf it's going to be going on.

proudly displayed with him. So I got one of those

Jack Daniel bottles that are the airplane size

bottles. So it's a tiny one. Oh my god. Yeah.

So that's going to go with him in the passenger

seat. Oh my god. Don't drink and drive, kids.

Please don't drink and drive. I'm not making

fun of alcoholism or related issues, but. I hope

to god that, yeah, that's, yeah, don't do that,

folks. Don't drink and drive. so how did i lose

that again okay so you're sitting here talking

about all this night rider car stuff and everything

else and i have i've actually sent you these

but i have pulled up my funko pop night rider

pictures and i am looking for my hot wheels super

pursuit mode kit that i have not opened yet and

i don't know where the hell it went anyway But

yeah, Knight Rider Toys, Knight Rider 2000, the

Knight 2000 voice car. I'm trying to remember

if it actually was William Daniels' voice. I

think it was, but I don't remember. I haven't

heard it in years. Well, like I said, there is

that one YouTuber that I hate that does have

a video of how to repair it. And I'm wondering

how much mental Strength am i going to need to

listen to his dollar voice. To learn how to repair

it and would i rather it just stay broken than

ever having to listen to him i'm not sure yet.

Play all i know is. I got one for four bucks.

I think that is the cheapest most valuable figure

ever bought. The only other couple figures that

have been as amazing finds as that not something

from eBay, you know, I don't count those the

original green dragon zord from Bandai when that

came out Finding that at Kmart with my mom the

only one that I ever saw in the stores That one

is up on that list. I still have most of it.

I think I'm missing like a part from it I think

it's just the holster for the Green Ranger, but

I don't really care about that because he didn't

really use the Power Rangers blaster in the show.

But otherwise it's complete and original. And

I'm trying to remember what I could describe

as the third one. Probably, I would say, do you

remember the Toy Biz, Marvel Legends, X -Men

classics, Avalanche figure by any chance? Yeah,

yeah. I found that when I was in Springfield

years ago, maybe still in college. And it was

the Toys R Us that Deval worked at. Oh, wow.

That one is incredibly rare, still holds a lot

of value. Still a fantastic figure. Really, really

high quality figure, still holds up compared

to a lot of others. And that would probably be

the other amazing find. I'm trying to think if

there's anything else. Oh, DC superheroes. Remember

that original line before classics came out?

Mm -hmm. There was a figure of the character

steel. Yeah, so there are two versions one had

Just kind of your matte metallic paint not shiny.

There's another one that had sort of a vac metalized

Emblem on his chest Right never saw the figure

ever in the stores The only one ever saw and

this is the rare variant version of it. That's

that's the one I still have in my shelf. So It's

stuff like that, but none of those were four

dollars and none of those were almost 30 year

old toys. 40 year old toys, 40 year old toys.

I mean, technically it's 39 because the toy didn't

come out until 83, but the franchise is 40 years

old this year. But if you think about the manufacturing

turnaround timeline, though. Oh, yeah. It was

probably made in 82. No, no, no. Yeah, no, absolutely.

But again, you have to, you know, you also have

to think of when it was actually released and

obviously and all that. I just want to say it's

40 years old because it just sounds better. Yeah,

no, no, absolutely. And it is absolute. That

car was gangbusters. Everybody like just like

everything else in the 80s that was toys. Everybody

wanted that thing. I always wanted that thing.

And for me now, like The reason why I want the

Knight 2000 voice car, I don't even care if Michael,

if the Michael figure comes with it. I really

don't. I just want the voice part. That's what

I want. I just want to hear the damn car talk.

Just like, you know, 1986 me sitting in the car

and the lady having a huge problem with me trying

to, you know, get me to look at the, at the photographer

to take the picture. And I'm just like, Kit is

about like William Daniels. He's supposed to

be in the trunk so Kit can talk to me, you know,

so Knight Rider is a franchise that has many

many many cool things throughout the years I

Like I said my buddy Dion and I just released

Beyond the Knight episode 51 in that episode.

I mentioned The Knight Rider board game and he's

like there is a board game And he's a huge Knight

Rider friend just like I am, but he did not know

that there was a board game. So I was just curious.

I was just curious. Curiosity killed the kit,

folks, because I went on eBay and I looked up

the Knight Rider board game. I think I got it

for under $25 shipped, complete. And it'll be

here, I don't know when. And I will probably

watch, because I believe it's on Netflix, I'm

probably going to start watching a couple of

episodes here and there. And I'm going to give

it a shot, if not for anything else than just

pure morbid curiosity. I guess it is on Netflix.

I do not want you to watch it until I give you

a full episode list of the episodes you should

watch. Because I don't want you to... Watch an

episode. And then you're like, I hate this episode.

I'm never watching this show again. So I will

say I've started using my home exercise bike

when I, when I don't have time to get out and

I've been watching stuff all while biking. So

I will give it a shot. Yeah, no, absolutely.

But just let me make you a list first because

I want you to, I want you to see the good parts

of Knight Rider. I don't, I don't think I have

the time to commit to watching the whole season.

I'll be honest with you. Well, I mean, like,

like I said, I'm going to pick through the 92

episodes of the series and all four seasons,

and I'm just going to make you a list and you

can watch that list in. So like, okay. So in

season one. We have Night of the Phoenix, which

is the opening two hour movie thing that they

did, Deadly Maneuvers, Good Day at White Rock,

Slammin' Sammy, Stunt Show, Spectac... You know,

they have all these episodes. So what I'm gonna

do is I'm gonna cut all this down and I'm gonna

go in order and I'm just gonna make you a list.

Out of the 90 episodes, I think there may be

40 of them that you should watch. I think. But

I have to... If I have time to watch 40 Well,

okay, but I'm saying like not all at once like,

you know, you can do this over time You know

what? I mean like you don't have to watch 40

episodes in a week You can you know watch one

or two? Report back blah blah blah, whatever.

You know what I mean? Like yeah, but oh Is it

just because he went through that stuff with

the alcohol and the floor? Is it just because

of that that you have your obsession with the

off? No, actually, the first time Draper mentioned

that to me, I had to go and refresh myself on

it. I had totally forgotten about it. I was not

aware of it and I played along sort of like...

when somebody says something to me that I don't

know, but I don't want them to know I don't know,

so I pretended like I knew. Yeah, I do that a

lot. I just went along with it and then looked

it up later. I empathize with the guy. That's

a really rough position to be in that far and

then have that released by someone that you trust

and then hopefully, I believe he got himself

cleaned up after that or that was a bad moment

and he adjusted. Yeah, he did. He's had a little

bit of a career renaissance showing up in a couple

of very random and ironic things. I created this

character, The Hoff, of this mischievous, drunken...

random traveler who I have pictures going around

Disney World doing dumb things. Okay. I have

a picture of the Hoff and the sewer spitting

Michelangelo, the one in the Hawaiian outfit.

Yeah. At Disney World next to the statue of Walt

and Mickey pose just like them. And it's as ridiculous

and obnoxious as you can possibly imagine. And

I love it. Awesome. Well, Knight Rider's 40th

anniversary is this year and Dion and I are probably

not going to go through every episode again like

we did originally of all the series, but we are

going to have other episodes over on Beyond the

Knight. I will talk more in depth maybe on another

one later this year about the Funko Pop Ride,

since this was mainly your episode for your history

of Knight Rider. And if I can find it, the Hot

Wheels super pursuit mode car because I don't

know where that like I just had that. I don't

know where it went. Oh, so that's going to do

it. I think unless you have anything else. Honestly,

no, I think. With my schedule in the next couple

of weeks, we might not see the Hoff come out

for a while, but I'm always looking for avenues

and opportunities to. Utilize the haw for some

pictures i do want to do some more stuff with

them maybe create an instagram or something.

Now that i have the car but there is something

that dos and i filmed when he was here. That

might eventually come out just a funny little

side project probably no longer than a three

minute video five minute video. Why i won't say

much about it. In hoping that it does come out.

I just I need to make a video of it and have

DOS do some voiceover and we just move on with

our lives. Okay. I want that to come out. I realize

that I am well aware never seeing an episode,

but having this weird fandom is bizarre to say

the least. Well, it's one of those good. But

I think that's. For me, that's one of the endearing

things of how can I like something so much or

someone so much or a character so much and not

having experienced it? But we could talk to Scott

Knightlick about this, about how people will

grab any sort of token object, especially a toy,

and press upon it a character, an identity, a

persona, and have fun with it regardless of the

source material. And I think that's what I kind

of continue to do. Yeah, and I mean like you

said, you know, you were in elementary school

You were in fourth grade fifth grade whatever

in the 90s and by that time the show was already

off the air and whatever else I mean, I think

they were still running reruns in the 90s. But

again, I think that If you and I make time and

I'm not saying like we're gonna like I said,

I'm gonna make that list But if you and I make

time to have you watch An episode a week And

we, you know, take your first Michael and you

tell a story and then you tell your thoughts

on that. We can figure this out off air and all

this and all that and everything else, but Knight

Rider 40th anniversary. Love the series. You

got to get into it. At least try, like I said,

at least try the, you know, the first couple.

And the funny thing is, is what you're doing

with, you know, being attached to the character

and doing all your own adventure. That's the

same thing I think somebody did with one of the

gem dolls. Like this person got attached to the

original doll of gem, but they had never seen

the series and they went and watched the series

and they loved it. Yeah, I actually heard a phenomenal

story. I think it was an article or maybe something

I saw in a forum of a kid who was never allowed

to see Star Wars, but had a pretty decent collection

of Star Wars toys. So they had no background,

no schema, no frame of reference for any of the

characters or what they did. Nothing. Yeah. Can

you imagine a kid with a good imagination? What

would they do with figures like that? And I did

that myself. I actually did not know that the

Leia in her bounty hunter disguise, I think Bush

or Bosh, whatever the name is. Do you remember

that from Return of the Jedi? Yep, yep, yep.

I had that figure when I was young. One, I did

not know it was Princess Leia. I thought it was

a male. Two, I just thought it was a cool figure.

Three, I also had a Boba Fett. This is before

the re -release of Star Wars on VHS in the mid

-90s and coming back to theatrical cut and this

is before Kenner re -released their stuff. So

I had no idea who Boba Fett was, but he had a

rocket pack and he had armor, so he was super

cool. So those were all characters that I just

put my own character on, and I've always kind

of done that, so... Yeah, and that's fine. That's

your... that is Josh the floor burgers play pattern

and that's okay like that's you know there's

the same thing like when I asked the question

in the origins about did you and your friends

ever pretend to be the characters of the toys

or you know that you know that kind of thing

so yeah absolutely so well I never necessarily

pretend yeah but no I'm saying it's the same

it's the same kind it's not the exact same Play

principle, but it's that play pattern of Instead

of a new character. Yeah. Yeah, exactly I did

that with GI Joe's all the time because a lot

of times I was playing with GI Joe's way after

the I never watched the cartoon Never saw the

cartoon, but I had tons of the figures. So what

do you do with the one neon figure? This is neon

man. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah So I good episode

fun fun chat. I I hope I have to find that fourth

Hoff figure wherever he wound up. You'll get

message from me at two in the morning. Let's

hope the cats didn't get him. Oh, our new kitten

is not, like, my whole Master of the Universe

Classics shelf is knocked over because it's close

to the floor. Oh, no. Poor Tila is just knocking

over Zodak. Stop it, Tila. Or is he knocking

her up? That's the better question. Anyway, that's

a conversation for another time. Well, that escalated

quickly. Yes. Yes, I did. Coming up next time

here on Toycast, I have got a Origins episode

with Eric Braley. He is one of the originating

team members of Toy Robot Magazine. Oh, I remember

that. Remembered. It's like brand new. But anyway.

They've got like I don't know nine Nine or ten

issues right now. I mean they've been around

for a little while, but anyway toy robot magazine

It's all about toy robots. They're going through

a bunch of transformer stuff right now Currently

they're about to release issue 9 of volume 2

and issue 9 of volume 2 includes their interview

with Peter Cullen and Frank Welker It's like

six voices on the original cartoon series That's

like yeah, you know six or seven for Peter and

like a thousand for Frank between rumble Megatron

sound wave He probably did the squawks for laser

beak You know, so yeah, but yeah, Eric Rayleigh

toy cast origins coming up next time here on

the show And then after that I think is another

Origins with my buddy, my new friend Dan from

Rock Nerd Radio. You have other friends besides

me? Yes, I do. Oh good, I'm glad. Alright folks,

keep playing with your toys and we'll catch you

next time here on Toycast. Bye! That system is

not clear for use. No time to explain, pal. I

gotta get outta here before you kill more of

us. I've been instructed to warn you. You're

making an unauthorized exit. I'll be back for

ya. I promise.

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