124 – Masters Of The Universe 1987 Commentary

Hi, this is Larry Dottilio, writer for He -Man

and Beast Wars, and you are listening to the

Geekcast Radio Network. He -Man and the Masters

of the Universe! Hello, this is Optimus Solo,

and welcome to the 124th chapter in our Powers

of Greyskull series. With me for this journey

into the Masters of the Universe franchise is

TFG1 Mike. Hello. Hello. People thought they

were done with us. We continue to keep going.

So, long time no talk. Last time we talked, we

talked about the 2002 He -Man series. Yep. And

people might have thought we were done, but are

you ready to return to Eternia, sir? Kind of.

Sort of. Not really. Ready or not, what are we

going to be talking about in today's episode?

There's no more cartoons. For now. There's no

more cartoons for now. Now, we are transported

back. 34? Yeah, 34 years ago. Lord, we're old.

I'm old. 34 years ago, 1987, the live -action

He -Man and the Masters of the Universe film

starring Dolph Lundgren, Frank Langella. Thankfully,

I don't have to actually look at anything to

remember that, because hello. Directed by Gary

Goddard, it was released August 7th, 1987. Interesting

that they did that because that is one year and

one day before the epic release of August 8th,

1986 in Transformers, the movie. Interesting.

So yes, this is going to be our commentary on

the film. We are actually going to watch the

film and comment on it as we go along. We will

be doing a countdown here in a few moments. So

we are both synced up so we can each watch it

on our own. So if you have a DVD version or if

you have the ability to pull it up on whatever

streaming platform or whatever methods you have,

this would be the time to get it queued up and

we'll let you know when to start. Yep, absolutely.

Uh, so let me ask you, did you, you were six

years old when this came out? Correct. Did you

see this in theaters? Did your parents take it?

You're, uh, you know, I'm 95 % sure that we saw

this in theaters because I had already seen the

transformers movie in theaters the year before.

Um, and I'm pretty sure this was, might've been

the next film we went to, unless there was some

type of like animated. thing that we went to.

We didn't go to a lot of movies, but I, for some

reason, remember going to this one. Now that

could be just me remembering wrong. Cause like

you said, I was six and I don't specifically

remember it, but for some reason I want to say

that, yes, I did see this in the theater. I was

seven and I don't think I saw this in the theater.

I, I don't know. Right. But I mean, like, and

again, you know, for me, the first, film i actively

remember seeing in theaters uh is most likely

batman 89 or something like that i know i did

not because again we weren't we went to the theaters

but we weren't a theater goat we were like you

know let's just wait till it hits cable wait

till it hits vhs obviously back then you're waiting

two or three years versus you know six months

which is what or you know hell now that the pandemic

has hit us you know oh hey guess what streaming

at home yay Which I'm all for that. You know

what? As much as I respect and love and I've

had a love for movie theaters for years, for

my entire life, at this point in my life, I want

to control my media. I don't want to deal with,

you know, I just mentioned this in an episode

of Studio 2009 where Mike the Birdman Dot is

helping me do 12 Months of Star Wars. We're going

through every episode of... all nine films of

the star Wars Skywalker saga thing. And I just

mentioned this to him. I'm like, I want to control

the media. I don't want to have to worry about

going to the bathroom and missing something.

I can just pause it and be fine. You know? So

yeah, especially if you have like a theater in

your basement or something like that, like you

do. Comes in handy. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So

we hope you are ready because it is time to head

to Eternia in this Masters of the Universe 1987

film commentary. You're going to hear the trailer

right here. At the far end of the universe, there

is a planet ruled by a being of utter evil. And

there is only one man who dares challenge him.

They are locked in a battle to the death. A battle

that will take them across the heavens. A battle

that will finally be fought. Across the face.

Of Earth. I think I'm going to need some backup.

can you show us the way no from a distant galaxy,

they have come to Earth. Dolph Lundgren as He

-Man. Frank Langella as Skeletor. Only they have

the powers to be Masters of the Universe. Live

the adventure. And now we will do a countdown.

In 3, 2, 1, play. All right. First up, the company

logo, Canon. They would not be in business much

longer. This was one of they were doing this

and they were doing something else. They had

plans to do a Spider -Man movie, like a big time,

big budget Spider -Man movie. And because this

one and whatever the other film was didn't do

too well, they never got to do that Spider -Man

film. So very short lived. You saw Canon first?

Yeah, mine's going through Gary Goddard and Dolph

Lundgren and all the names on the screen. We

probably have two different versions, so we'll

have to... Yeah, this version that I'm doing

started out with the MGM logo, and now it's in

association with... Now I see Gary's name. Okay.

I'll get you... I'll get caught up with you for

a second. Because the first thing we're going

to see is Castle Grayskull. Mm -hmm. Are you

seeing that yet? Yep, right now. Alright. Interesting

thing about this set right here, it became the

biggest set ever used within the last 40 years

in a movie. They took two sound stages and broke

the wall in the middle of it down so that it

was two sound stages combined. So it was a very

large set for some reason to capture that Castle

Greyskull. It looks like a very cool design,

too. Yeah, and the movie poster for this one

should have signified to everybody right away

that there was going to be some weird things

about this film. Because the movie poster has

Dolph Lundgren as He -Man standing in the middle

of it, and then it's got the two kids at the

bottom holding a device, and then it has Skeletor's

head above it. So you can kind of see right from

the get -go that it's not going to look like

the cartoon. No. Now, they stated that they weren't

trying to base this off of the cartoon. They

were trying to base this off of the toy line.

Yeah. So it was not supposed to necessarily look

hand in hand with what the cartoon did. But I

think that's one of the things that probably

was the biggest surprise to viewers, to fans.

You know, when we're watching the cartoon and

we're used to how things look and this, that

and the other. And then you go, you know, you

know, it's going to be live action. So it's going

to be a little bit different. when you show up

and there's so many differences from the cartoon,

I think it threw a lot of people off. Like, is

this a He -Man movie or is this just something

else with the He -Man name? Cause they had good.

And I swear I read an article or something with

the director, Gary Goddard, where he was more

influenced by Jack Kirby's fourth world stuff.

Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. And I mean, obviously some

of it is just from a, what was possible at the

time from a budget standpoint and things like

that. Like they can't make a flying Orko in this

movie. They can't make, you know, battle cat

and cranger. It's not, you know, it took us until

just a couple of years ago to do that type of

stuff. So, but we're seeing that it's interesting

too, that the film starts off with, with Skeletor

and we're on Eternia. So you don't get a lot

of Eternia in this movie, but we start here and

I think this is a great setup. Yeah, this is

an amazing scene. Regardless of how you feel,

the Black Stormtroopers, which we do get a lot

of robots almost reminiscent of Hordak's Horde

robots, which we wouldn't see normally in a He

-Man universe because you get the evil warriors,

you don't get robots, but they were forced to

do that because of Mattel. who basically gave

them a directive that He -Man or any of the good

characters could not kill anybody. You know,

it's coming off the heels of Optimus Prime dying

and Duke being put in a coma, and now you can't

kill anybody. Holy crap, look at Skeletor. Yeah,

Skeletor is amazing in this film. Regardless

of how you feel about any of the other characters

and the looks and this, that, and the other,

I think Skeletor was perfect. And Frank Langella

was great. It was nice to see somebody that was

actually excited about the role and who didn't

try to shit on it later. Yeah, exactly. Dolph

Lundgren cannot say the same thing. He was kind

of mean after the fact about this and acting

like it was beneath him. And I liked that Langella

was mature enough to be like, you know what?

I'm not so proud that I can't do a fun kids movie.

He did it for his son, who was a big He -Man

fan. It's interesting, too, that we get to see

the sorceress. Basically, captured right off

the bat. Right. Skeletor has already won. Right.

So, Sorceress is being held captive by Skeletor,

which is an interesting way to start. It kind

of gets us right off the bat, like, oh, shoot,

what's going on here? Yeah. I do not. I do not

like her design. No, I'm not a huge fan of hers

either. They took away most of the color and

made it all white, crystalline, and see -through

type stuff. I was more of a fan of the rainbow,

not the rainbow, but the multicolor thing that

we get. Blue, orange, and white. Absolutely.

The Sorceress is played by Christina Pickles,

who interestingly plays the mother of Courtney

Cox on Friends later on in life. Courtney Cox

obviously appears in this movie as well. We have

Skeletor doing like a holographic vision to He

-Man. That's the first time we get to see He

-Man. Interesting part about He -Man, I don't

mind the outfit. I don't mind the look of him.

I think Dolph Lundgren at the time was a good

choice to play him. But interesting that we will

see no Prince Adam in this movie. Yeah, no, he's

He -Man the whole time. And again, I've said

this before. I said this recently with the cartoons.

Sadly, the 2002 series only got 39 episodes.

And back in the day, we were only worried about

episode by episode. We weren't worried about

overall continuity in the 80s. They were doing

single stories. Comics is where they can flush

all that out. It really, really is. And they

have. DC has done an amazing job doing various

Masters of the Universe comics for a while now.

I think the only thing I don't like about He

-Man in this is the power sword looks very wimpy.

And he's also shooting people. Yeah, I don't

like that either. Which he never did, really.

It's interesting that we take one of the main

things about He -Man, which is the transformation

from Adam to He -Man, back and forth, and we

just eliminate that from this whole show. We

get to see Man -at -Arms and Teela. in this sequence,

which obviously they have a different look. Man

-at -Arms, I mean, he's kind of close. He's still

got the helmet. He's still got some of the armor

and stuff like that. Yeah, so he looks close.

Teela doesn't really look at all like Teela.

I like this version better than the cartoon version,

honestly. I don't know. Maybe it's just the actress,

but she doesn't come off as bitchy as Teela does

in a lot of things. The other interesting thing

about Dolph Lundgren, who's playing He -Man right

here, is that obviously he's a Swedish actor,

and they were very worried about his voice. Oh,

yes. The original plan was to not have his voice

be featured at all. He was supposed to be physically

the character, and then once they were done,

they were going to re -dub his voice with somebody

that sounded more with less of an accent that

could have come off more, I guess, English or

American, maybe. 1987, you know what they could

have done. Yeah, they could have done a voice

actor. They could have just had John Irwin gone

into a booth and read the lines. Because I think

if John Irwin, if they went that route and John

Irwin was, let's say Gildor for the first time

here, you know, if John Irwin was the voice,

I think a lot of people would have liked this

more at the time. Right. Absolutely. And it was

just another one of those things that came down

to budgets. Like they weren't able to have the

time to re -dub his lines. So Dolph Lundgren's

voice remained in there. even if it comes off

as obviously being a little bit different from

everybody else's. So, um, John, John Cypher is

playing man at arms there. I believe it's Chelsea

field who's playing Tila. And then we get Gwildor

who is Billy Barty. Yep. Um, and obviously Gwildor

is there instead of Orko. That is, that is specifically

like that was a choice. That's not just like

another random character. That is a character

that is mainly supposed to almost be taking Orko's

role. Yeah. But they couldn't do Orko. He's very,

he's very yogurt in my mind watching this again.

He's very, just the size of the character, the

character design. It's very Mel Brooks, baseballs,

yogurt. And by far, this was my favorite part

of this film is the cosmic key. I always wanted

the cosmic key tones. I always wanted that stuff.

Right. Right. Oh, apparently there was like four

versions of the cosmic key that they had on set

as far as props go. Cool. Um, and I guess it

was so fragile and so easily broken that they

just had to like have people on hand at all times

to put it back together every time it broke.

But I guess it was hard to keep together because

of all the different parts and how it kind of

like expands and different stuff like that. And

then we get to see, obviously right here. Interesting

setup here. Obviously, we're seeing Eternia here

at the beginning of the film. We're going to

see the whole middle of the film all take place

on Earth, and then we'll see Eternia pop up again

at the end of the movie. That was another cost

-cutting way for them to save some money is to

do most things at Earth so they didn't have to

come up with otherworldly sets. Outside of the

few they did, obviously, with Castle Grayskull

there at the beginning and where we're at right

now. Master Universe did not do very well at

the box office. No, it did not. It had a budget

of about $22 million and brought in about $17

million. That's not counting all the other stuff

that goes along with making a movie and stuff

like that. You can say it became a cult favorite

afterwards on VHS, DVD, whatever you want to

say, but box office, not so great. It had a 17

% at Rotten Tomatoes. So, it's not a great score,

obviously. Continuing to see, obviously, Man

-at -Arms, Teela, and He -Man meeting Gwildor,

talking to Gwildor, finding out about what's

going to set up the rest of the movie, basically.

We got our first introduction to some more of

the evil characters. And this is where it kind

of goes. Up to this point, we've seen Skeletor,

we've seen the Sorceress, we've seen He -Man,

Man -at -Arms, Teela. Yes, we've been introduced

to Gwildor, but you could be like, well, that's

just for this movie type thing. It's not until

they start introducing the evil warriors that

you're like, wait, what's going on here? Because

these aren't characters that we're used to. Yeah.

I was not used to Blade or Karg and all that.

The only one that is from the series outside

of Evil Lynn is Beastman. Nobody else exists

from the cartoon that we're used to. And of course

we get robots like stormtroopers everywhere.

So obviously Skeletor and his minions have taken

over much of Eternia and basically claimed victory.

They got the sorcerers captured. He -Man, Man

-at -Arms, and Teela are basically almost...

stealth mission. It's reminiscent to Star Wars

at times when they're at Naboo trying to sneak

around because they've been captured and whatnot.

Similar to that, where they're trying to go in

and out the windows or different doorways and

things like that. Hey, at least this thing weren't

trying to scale up the window. Oh, God, I hated

that. That scene in the movie. Got the Olympic

flame back there on fire there. The everlasting

flame. Pretty sure that's the same one from the

Olympics. No, I'm just kidding. Oh, Lord. I agree

with you. I don't care for the sorceress in this.

She looks like a Christmas tree. She looks like

a really, really poorly lit Christmas tree is

what she looks like. Yeah. Like, I'm pretty sure

you can buy her crown and... put it on a Christmas

tree and it would be the same purpose. Probably,

most likely. They said they designed Castle Grayskull

as kind of like the house of all power in Eternia

without trying to designate whether it was good

power or bad power. So as we get to see different

parts of Castle Grayskull, you'll see that one

level is more dedicated to good and then the

other level has a lot more evil aspects because

They were kind of saying, you know, evil or the

power doesn't know good or evil. It's just exists.

So that's why we get kind of a gray skull that

has multi dimensions to it. It looks differently.

And obviously we get the appearance now of Evelyn

and Skeletor back to confront. Yup. Evelyn's

crazy. She's played by. um meg foster i believe

yep um and her eyes are very evil looking and

it's 100 natural like she has these crazy eyes

in real life that like look like they're a science

fiction like effect but it's just her eyes i

guess a lot of people thought for years that

like she was using some type of weird contacts

in this movie to make her look like more evil

and more like sci -fi ish but those are her natural

eyes So when you get a chance to see them, definitely

look at that. It's kind of interesting. And I

guess her costume was so heavy. I want to say

it was like 50 pounds or 45 pounds or something

like that. And I guess it like left bruises like

on her legs and her groin area and stuff like

that. Yeah. After she would have to wear it.

But she said it helped her kind of like stay

in character because she was so restricted in

her movements. And if you watch the movie, I'm

going to have to watch carefully this time as

we're watching the movie because I read online

that you're never going to see her sit because

of her outfit. I don't think she has the capability

of sitting down while wearing it. That wouldn't

surprise me. She's not the only one. Pansmar

is the name of one of the other guys. I want

to say it's Saurad, one of the other evil warriors.

You'll never see him sit either. So some of these

costumes are very restrictive. Oh, I don't doubt

it. Most costumes in the 80s films were very

restrictive. I mean, you know, again, briefly,

because we just released the Batman 89. Well,

we will release Batman 89 for Studio 2009. Yeah.

Keaton's first costume. you know, restrictive.

I mean, you can even, you can even see it on

Evelyn. That is just a massive piece of metal

that she's wearing from basically her whole torso,

chest, stomach, you know, groin area. Yep. So

this is where we're going to be leaving the Eternia

here shortly. So take in whatever you want to

from the visuals here, cause you're not going

to get to see much more of it. No. Till the end.

Yeah. Jump through the, uh, The time corridor?

The corridor here. The time corridor. This is

like one of the first times where it's looking

a little cheesy. Obviously, you're going to have

the laser beams being shot that look obviously

very 80s -ish, Star Wars -ish, but then when

we have these people flying through the time

corridor, it's like, okay, we'll just suspend

reality for a little while here while we watch

this. Yep. I did like the effect where they shoot

the grapple back. Yeah, that was good. And grab

the cosmic key. And frankly, it's just so good

with Skeletor. He is his voice, his mannerisms,

the way he's moving. I don't know what kind of

stuff he has on his costume besides, you know,

the robe and the whatever else. But I don't know.

I mean, he looks like he's moving fairly fine

and he looks like he's fine in that skull mask.

Yeah, I could be completely. I didn't read anything

about him having any costume problems, really.

It was mainly some of the other characters that

did. Oh, here they're flying back in, looking

ridiculous. And now we're on Earth. Yep. The

bulldog can't swim, apparently. So this is like

one of those fish -out -of -water type situations.

Where we have all these characters on Earth and

they know nothing about the customs. They're

walking around in the medieval garb with swords

and shit. It's funny. Gwildor definitely can't

swim. Interesting, too, that we didn't get to

see any other... They kept it very limited as

far as the Masters that we see. The whole movie

is titled Masters of the Universe, but we get

to see three of them. Yeah. I mean, technically

four if you count the sorceress, but she was

never really... I mean, but yeah. I get that

you're not going to be able to do Stratos and

anybody that's flying, that nature. And a lot

of the other masters had different gimmicky type

things, like you're not going to have mechanic,

can't do the neck thing, you're not going to

have mani faces, probably too hard to do the

face thing. Ramman you could probably have, but

he would never be able to ram anything. He would,

but it would just like his, yeah, his design,

you would have to basically just copy the filmmation

design and just have him run into stuff. It wouldn't,

there would be no effect. There would be no bounce

bounce, which is crazy because look what star

Wars did almost 10 years before this. Right.

You know, I mean, star Wars did a whole lot of

stuff, even though it doesn't in the grand scheme

of things nowadays. Star Wars, there's much more

technology now, but compare this to that. Star

Wars did a hell of a lot more than what this

movie did. Absolutely. So since they're trying

to track the key and whatever else, and they

haven't found it yet, I want to bring up the

fact that La La Land Records in 2012 released

a two -disc score for this film. And sadly, it's

now out of print. There's one, one copy available

on Amazon for $50. Now, normally low line record

stuff ranges between 20 and depending on what,

like, I mean, a lethal weapon for, you know,

a lethal weapon for CD, you know, kind of, you

know, all four film kind of thing. That's going

to go for like a hundred bucks. But this thing.

I wish I had it because it says on CD to cosmic

key music, 14 seconds. I'm like, Oh damn you.

And I'm sure I can find it on YouTube or whatever,

but it just, I need the music, man. Right. You

know, you were talking about a Skeletor's costume

and mask and different things like that. I didn't

find anything that said that it was necessarily

hard for him to wear. I did find an interesting

piece of trivia though, that Skeletor's mask

found new life. after this movie and appeared

on the sets of Star Trek The Next Generation

in 1987 and Star Trek Deep Space Nine 1993 as

the face of a skull -faced alien that Lieutenant

Worf often fights on the holodeck. So now I'm

going to have to find those episodes and find

Skeletor's mask in that. But we got our first

look at one of the main humans that we're going

to be following throughout the rest of this,

which is, of course, none other than the main

first appearance of Courtney Cox to the world.

Yep. So the future friends star scream star,

whatever else you want to say, basically got

her first big movie here. Ace Ventura. Yeah.

This is probably the, this is the most I could

put up with her because after this, I really

didn't care for her and anything else. It's funny.

I don't mind her as, as Melissa in, in Ace Ventura.

She's the publicist or whatever she is. She could

have been a decent April O 'Neil or somebody

like that, but I just did not like her on Friends.

I don't like Friends in general. I don't like

that. I've never liked Friends. Ever since the

90s, ever since I was a kid in the 90s, I always

found Seinfeld funnier. The only thing I really

ever referenced Friends for is, oh, they went

to a Hootie and the Blowfish concert. Cool. I

like a lot of the other characters. I just didn't

care for her. This is Robbie's Ribs and Chicken.

This restaurant here, that location is randomly

and kind of weirdly, that is the place where

Rodney King gets beat up in a couple years after

this. Yeah, that was where that happened, where

he got abused. So it just happens to be in the

same building that was repurposed, obviously,

for something else. And then we get her boyfriend.

Kevin. You had to say his name, didn't you? Well,

his name is your name now. It's Kevin Corrigan

played by Robert Duncan McNeil. He was also in

a Star Trek Voyager. It was one of his best known

roles. Lieutenant Tom Harris. Interesting. For

anybody that's a Star Trek fan, that's where

you would mainly see him later on in life. We

get the interesting aspects. Obviously, if you're

listening to this with audio, you'd be picking

up a lot of the... kind of the fish out of water

stuff that we were talking about before, where

they're coming across things that are not familiar

to them. Like we already saw the cow and we're

going to see, you know, different things like

that, where they're just like, they don't quite

understand what it is, what to do about it, how

to act, things like that. Dolph Lundgren, like

I was talking about before, said that working

on this film was a nightmare. He said the shooting

schedule was five months, including two months

of night shooting. He said he was approached

to do a sequel during the shooting and turn down

the offer. Because there was a sequel that was

going to be made if this movie would have done

better. Oh, wow. He did later tell in a website

interview of some sorts. It was when he was getting

ready for the release of The Expendables in 2010.

He did mention that he would return to appear

in a new Masters of the Universe movie as either

a cameo or He -Man, whatever he was able to pull

off. Obviously, he couldn't have pulled off He

-Man at that point in his life. He could have

pulled off an old He -Man, and honestly, since

we're talking about him, since Wildor's trying

to figure out the chicken and whatever else,

you know, Ever since The Expendables, I have

a new respect for Dolph as an older actor now.

And I really think he could pull off an old He

-Man or, hell, even a King Greyskull or something

like that. I feel like Gwildor could have pulled

off appearing in the Lord of the Rings franchise.

Isn't this like pre -Hobbit? I mean, he'd fit

in with all the other dwarves and whatnot. He

would have fit right in. Not some of them, not

too much of a fan. Tila is not a fan of the chicken

wing. No. Gwildor and Man at Arms doing a little

better with it. Yeah. But yeah, we'll, we'll

talk about it a little bit more later, but there

is a lot of information out there. Not a lot

of, I shouldn't say a lot of information, but

a lot of sites that are addressing the fact that

there was going to be a sequel. I got to say,

after hearing the premise of what it was going

to be like, I'm kind of glad that it didn't happen.

The main idea here is that it was going to, you

know, obviously take place years later. And that

it was going to be, it was going to include She

-Ra. It was going to include Trap Jaw. And I

can't remember who else. Somebody else. But it

was weird because Skeletor was going to be masquerading

around as an evil, almost like a sports agent,

but not a sports agent, like a bigwig, like a

Wall Street -type bigwig or a rich person. And

He -Man was going to come back and be masquerading

as a quarterback for a football team or something.

It sounded so ridiculous. So basically what you're

saying is, is Rod Tidwell versus Jay Moore. Yeah,

it was going to be bad. That's what it was going

to be. Like I would have been fine for seeing

those other characters, like especially She -Ra

and whatnot, but I don't want He -Man to be playing

a quarterback. And I don't want, I don't want

the evil, like the, you know, executive Skeletor.

Oh, look, the kids found the cosmic key. Music

maker. Music maker. What would you do if you

found something like that and you're holding

it in your hand and it's lighting up like that?

Probably put it back where it belongs. Put it

back in the ground? Yeah. I guarantee I'm not

going to start hitting buttons, I don't think.

I'd be afraid that it was going to explode or

something if I hit something. Well, when we first

see it in the ground, the giant red light is

blinking. You'd think that they wouldn't have

touched it because a giant red light is blinking.

Don't these kids know? And now Skeletor's giant

red light is blinking. Trying to track it from

one to the other. I forgot that we do get to

come back to Eternia here and there to see Skeletor.

It's also a funny movie if you try to put all

the different sci -fi terms and language that

they throw in it. parsecs and things like that,

or weird things. Not necessarily He -Man -like,

but they throw it in there. Yeah. Again, going

back to Goddard wanting to homage Jack Kirby's

Fourth World. Yeah. Oh, Van of the 80s. This

reminds me of Back to the Future. Oh, yeah. It

almost looks like the same stage. Yeah, like

they're getting set up for the, what was it?

Enchantment Under the Sea Dance. Yeah, Enchantment

Under the Sea Dance, except for we've got a little

bit different setup here. I really do think it's

almost the exact same stage, and that would be

kind of interesting, considering that Strickland

is in this movie. Oh, yeah. I forgot about him.

We haven't seen him yet. No, we won't see him

for a while yet, but... James Tolkien plays Detective

High. Hugh Lubick. Excuse me, not high. He's

not high, but he's Hugh. But obviously, most

people know him as Mr. Strickland from Back to

the Future. Slacker! Good stuff. Oh, look, a

musical light show. You fool. Put it down. And

there's also this part in this, not this part

specifically where they're on Eternia looking

for the cosmic key. Oh, I like that effect though,

even though it's a very cheap effect. I love

the spatial effect of how they're trying to track

the planet, you know, kind of thing. Yeah, that

is very cool for the time. That was good for

computer graphics at that time. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, it was. But there's also this underlying

story thing in this movie where her parents are

dead. I believe, or her parents could die or

something like that. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Like, they are dead, but oh, wait, you know,

they don't have to be. We see a couple of the

people that they got here. We got Beastman and

Karg and Sarad and Blade and whatnot. I think

it was Karg, or whichever one is the lizard type

guy. You see his neck, like, inflate. and go

back and forth. He has a straw of some sort that

is connected to his mouth that he can inflate

and deflate that while he's in his costume. Beastman

being the only one that we get from the old one.

Blade was the one that always... I don't know.

That was the one that I found intriguing or interesting

or awesome as a kid. Obviously, Kar against Saurad

or whatever are freaky looking, so I wasn't drawn

to them. But I remember thinking Blade was kind

of badass. He was one that also had a very restrictive

costume. And at one point, he had a lot more

blades to it. It was covering a lot more of his

body. But in order for him not to basically overheat

and whatnot, they had to remove parts of it so

that his arms were free. So that he could breathe

a little bit easier. Wow. Yeah, he had these

huge metal pieces that were covering his whole

body at one point. And then they wanted him to

be in all kinds of makeup. um which he didn't

want to do so he like negotiated with him and

said what if i just shaved my head um instead

and i guess they said that was good enough so

that's why he's bald in this he's also responsible

for doing most of the choreography and the um

building up of any of the fight sequences especially

the two main ones um he had some expertise in

that realm so he wasn't just acting in this movie

but he was also choreographing a lot of the action

sequence because he is known as not only an actor,

but a stuntman and a fight choreographer. Very

cool, very cool. Yeah, he was known for his roles

in Highlander, the series. That's where he did

some stuff in some of the Indiana Jones. He taught

Michelle Pfeiffer how to use a bullwhip for her

role as Catwoman. So he had a lot of experiences

with fight choreography, stunt work, and things

like that. So he played a huge part in this film.

Obviously, we have the evil warriors now being

assembled, sent to Earth. Yep. And they're trying

to scare Courtney Cox, scream style. Janitor.

Janitors always get the shaft. Yep. What was

your opinion on Beastman? Overall, he's inconsequential.

I mean, I'm not expecting him to have full vocabulary

kind of thing. I don't expect any of these characters

in this movie to carry on a conversation like

they would in the cartoon series, but it just...

Outside of Evelyn and Skeletor, none of the characters,

even Blade. Blade was kind of cool, and like

you said, kind of curious about him, but like...

Beastman right here is basically just preparing

her for her scream days, essentially. You would

have thought that they could have turned Saurad,

I think that's the right one, into one of the

Snakemen almost, like a Cobra Khan type character.

Yeah. And you would think Beastman would not

have been the go -to guy to recreate if they

were going to create anybody. I would have thought

Triclops maybe could have been easier done, more

easily done than Beastman. Yeah. They didn't

do terrible with Beastman. I mean, he doesn't

look... super cheesy. No, but at the same time,

he does less here than he does in the actual

cartoon series. That's the only thing. Again,

these evil warriors are not here for their intelligence,

but they're basically here for fodder. The core

of the movie is Skeletor, Evelyn, and He -Man.

At first, I didn't know if Karg, I think that's

the one. Is Karg the one with the white hair?

Yep. At first I didn't know if that was a male

or a female character. Because the hair makes

it almost look feminine. But it's Courtney Cox

just running through like a what is this, like

a warehouse type situation? Yeah, it's some sort

of Not necessarily the best place to be when

you're trying to run away from these guys, I

don't think. I guess there's a lot of places

to hide, but you usually want to go around people.

Yeah, it's some sort of warehouse district or

something. Of course, she runs right into He

-Man's arms. She's freaked out because he also

looks like an alien. But don't worry, I'm going

to talk to you in sweet Swedish accents and you're

going to be feeling comfortable. And, of course,

the standard male -female pickup, you know. Look

in there. All about how Kark just makes the stormtroopers

look in random boxes. I'm just going to call

them stormtroopers or horde troopers. I don't

know. Oh, yeah. Whatever they are. Hell, at this

point, we could call them dark troopers. That's

true. Very true. It's just interesting when,

you know, thinking back to the first time you

ever watched this movie, it's definitely at this

point that you're... You're almost having a battle

within yourself on if this is a He -Man movie

or not. You know what I mean? They're on Earth.

We have humans. We have random characters that

we don't know who they are. We have He -Man,

though, and we have a couple other characters.

You're just not quite sure what to make of it,

I don't think, at this point. I don't know. We're

used to, as children of the 80s, we're used to

watching things like... turtles or transformers

or whatever series you want that always were

throwing like the human characters like as a

kid like it'd be like oh here's a bunch of robots

and we're going to give you one human character

that's also young you know a child of some sort

um and they did that in a lot of series even

even like series that weren't all aliens or robots

like you know look at mask or something like

that you still got the kid character um, that

was like, Oh, this is what the kids have to relate

to. This is how, so they can see themselves in

the story and whatnot. And it's weird because

this movie isn't quite doing that. They're not

giving us kid, but they're giving us like young

people that are humans, almost in the same manner

that you would see that in a cartoon. You know

what I mean? Like, it's like, here's people you're

supposed to relate to. Yeah. Here's one of the

fights we get with blade and he, man, that is

obviously choreographed by blade. Yep. With swords

and different things. Not too bad of action sequences

here. No, it's a good action sequence. I still

think He -Man's sword looks wimpy as hell, though.

Right. Oh, that was a creepy shot with Karg in

the background behind Courtney Cox. Yeah, grabbing

her. Yep. It was like a scene before that, though,

like a sequence before that. They showed him

in the background, and you didn't necessarily

see it at first. It was like, oh, he's just hiding

back there like a creeper. Mm -hmm. He -Man throwing

some people around. More red laser, blue laser.

Shooting a beast man. So that's our first interaction.

You know, the came in and everybody knows that

the evil warriors are on earth with them. So

we have that as a dilemma. Her fake crying is

so bad. Yeah, that's true. It was a decent choice

of having somebody that's going to be next to

Dolph Lundgren that's going to make Dolph Lundgren

look even bigger. Yeah, obviously. And now it's

so far removed because it's not our masters and

it's not even the main human. It's the main human's

boyfriend that has the quintessential device.

Probably because his name's Kevin. Yeah, well,

you know. It's your fault you went to Charlie's.

I don't even know where Charlie's is. Or Club

Zero, where this guy was. Exactly. And this is

supposed to be a pawn shop? Pawn shop, yeah.

Radio Shack or something? I think it's more like

a music store type thing. Oh, yeah, that's right.

It's a music store. Selling different instruments.

I haven't actually watched this movie in a decade.

It's got tambourines on the wall for some reason.

I don't know who he's selling those to. Drum

set up above on the other angle. Just touching

random buttons here. Probably not the smartest

thing to do. No, not at all. It's interesting,

too. It's got guitars up there above, and then

there's like a frickin' baritone or tuba case

next to them. It's like the most disorganized

store. You got drumsticks just in a frickin',

whatchamacallit, that is a drum that the drumsticks

are in. It's ridiculous. How much of this stuff,

what would any of this stuff be worth? If you

still had it today, some of it would be worth

some, some of it probably would be. And then

some of it would be just complete trash. Yup.

I was trying to see what the sale was, the sale

price on that guitar was in the background, but

I couldn't quite read it. No, I can't read it

either. There's only one that has like a first

sale ticket, but something's 59 98 and over his

shoulder. I couldn't see what it was. So obviously

they are learning about the break -in and the

arson and et cetera, et cetera, at the high school

that his girlfriend was at. What is Courtney

Cox? Julie. Julie is the character's name. Julie

is the character's name, yeah. So Julie and Kevin

is what we get from them. Who's Charlie? I don't

know. That was the name in the store there. Oh,

that's the music guy? I don't know if it's his

name, but there was a name, Charlie. On the counter,

just to the left of it, there's Charlie in all

pink neon. Yeah, because there's someone in the

cast list that's listed as Charlie. So that's

why I was checking that out. Welcome, seniors,

to your doom. High school really is the end of

your life, basically. Dolph Lundgren would be

63 this year. 64 is what he's going to turn this

year, actually. He is 63 currently. So he was

54 when he made The Expendables. Franklin Jella

just January 1st just turned 83. Yep. It's funny.

When The Americans was still on FX before it

ended its run, this is a spy thriller show on

FX networks. He actually has a role on there,

and I'm like, it's so weird seeing Frank Langella

without his Skeletor mask on. James Tolkien,

Detective Lubick, that we see right here, he

actually will turn 90 this year. 90. And he looks

the same now as he did three years ago. Billy

Barty is no longer with us. He died in the year

2000. I think almost everybody else, I'm just

kind of going through, I think everybody else

is still alive of the main cast, which is interesting.

A lot of times when we review stuff like this,

a lot of people are no longer with us. We do

have a lot of people that are 70 or 80 or 90,

but I'm not finding anybody besides Billy Barty

that's passed on. And it's funny because Lubick

had a... good three year run of films in the

eighties. I don't know what he had. I don't know

what he had in 84 or earlier, but from 85 to

87, back to the future, uh, uh, 86, he had top

gun, really Maverick top gun, you know, and then

he's got this and then he shows up obviously

later in back to the future, two and three. Right.

He was in one scene. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. He

actually played Numbers in Dick Tracy. That's

right. He had an appearance in Dick Tracy as

well. After that, I think it was mostly TV. He

did appear a couple years back in a movie called

Bone Tomahawk in 2015, which I saw. I'm going

to have to look back to see who he played in

that. He's been around for a while. He was in

Serpico in 1973. I haven't seen it, but I've

heard a lot of things about that movie. The Amityville

Horror. Another one that I have not seen. Been

around for a while. His first movie was 1960.

Yep. His first TV appearance, excuse me, 1960.

Naked City, yep. He has not appeared in anything

since 2015. I'm assuming that's because he's

retired since he's 90 years old. Probably. Skeletor

and Evil Lynn having a moment. Of course. They

almost played it up like more like a romantic

angle in this movie than we ever saw anywhere

else. Yeah. Where like, she's almost infatuated

with him in some way. Like she still has the

smart, like I'll do, I'll look out for number

one first type thing, but, but it's more of a,

it almost seems like a more of an attractiveness

towards to, you know, towards Skeletor, which

is kind of weird. The red lipstick really pops

on her with how white every, you know, her eyes

being so pale, which you could really see in

that last picture. And then the skin makeup that's

making her so pale, as well as her outfit, which

is also light colors. I don't hate her outfit.

It's a little different, but I don't hate it.

This is interesting here. We do talk about how

He -Man wasn't allowed to kill anybody. Not so

much, I guess, for Skeletor. He is going to kill

one of these guys real quick. Well, he is the

villain, you know. It was surprising. I remember

being surprised the first time I saw this, whether

it was in the theater or not, that it seems like

it was somewhat early in the movie where Skeletor

just takes somebody out, but it's a good way

of really showing his strength and his evilness

right off the bat. Absolutely, yeah. Beastman

looks like he had a better day. Mm -hmm. Oh,

oh, here we go. Yep. Skeletor looking like he's

not happy with things. His nose is so creepy.

Yeah, it is. Because again, it's a mask over

here. I am not in the giving pain this day. That's

a great line from Skeletor. Yeah, it is. That

is actually straight out of Shakespeare. It's

a copy from a line from one of Shakespeare's

plays. I'm not in the giving mood this day. It's

kind of an interesting ode to Shakespeare, I

guess. But so much for Sarad. Yep. He was useless

anyway. I guess Sarad really enjoyed working

with Franklin Jelly, even though he kills him

in this scene. Because I guess when in costume,

like we talked about with Evil Lynn, he can't

sit anywhere. So he had a special board that

he could lean against that had a hole cut out

for his tail to go through. So that he could

be like... resting in some ways. And I guess

Franklin Della would always stop by and talk

to him or bring him stuff to read or, you know,

I don't know if he brought him food or drink,

but it just would like go out of his way to make

sure he was comfortable, which was kind of nice.

Yeah. That's awesome. Franklin Della just comes

across as a, as a cool dude. Yeah, he does. Obviously

I've never met the guy. I can't speak for him,

but he just comes across as someone that seems

like he's down to earth. Didn't let fame get

to him. And yeah, he's a, he's an actor's actor.

Right. Class act. Getting back to Lubbock here,

he was in one episode, I think, of your favorite

show, one of my least favorite shows. He was

on The Wonder Years as Coach Silva. When was

that one of your least favorite shows? I just

don't like that show. When have you watched it

last? Whenever it hit whatever streaming service

it was a couple of years ago. I just feel like

watching it now and kind of just reminiscing

back to childhood and things like that, it just

gets you in the feels. I'd love The Wonder Years.

I haven't watched it from beginning to end, but

I want to at some point. I think one of them

was in MacGyver. I can't remember if it was Anthony

DeLongis or somebody else. Somebody was in an

episode of MacGyver. You'd think I'd know, but...

Yeah, you'd think you would know since you're

a MacGyver nut. Shut up. It wasn't either one

of those two. I don't know who I saw in this

film that was in one of the MacGyvers. Click

around a little bit and apologize for the sounds.

Well, Kevin in this movie did a lot of guest

spots on TV shows. Good Lord. Yeah, he did. He

was in The Twilight Zone. He was in All My Children,

Quantum Leap, L .A. Law, Star Trek The Next Generation,

Murder, She Wrote, Star Trek Voyager, Dawson's

Creek, Star Trek Enterprise, One Tree Hill, The

Outer Limits, The O .C., Supernatural. He's been

around for a while. Yes, he has. Blue Bloods,

White Collar. So you've probably seen him pop

up in many different things. Yep. he's one of

those guys. Hey, it's that guy. Where do I remember

you? Like you really have only ever seen him

once in this movie. Really? I mean, you know,

I'm sure. But for me, if I had seen him anywhere

else, I'd be like, wait a minute. Is that, and

I have no idea what he looks like since this

film. I only know what he looks like in this

movie. So I probably wouldn't recognize him either.

Right. I love those effects. Those effects are

really good on the scanner there for the time.

That was really cool. I agree. John Cypher also

was in a shit ton of things. Robert Towers was

in nothing. This is the guy that plays Karg.

He had four film roles. One of them was just

additional voices on Rockin' with Judy Jetson.

He's been in two video games and he was four

different animated roles and six television roles.

Wow. So Lubbock is going crazy over here because

he's like, Oh, this is nuts. I'm going to pull

a Kevin McAllister before Kevin McAllister did

it. Basically. Oh, this is interesting. Ponds

Mar, the guy who plays Sarad, he is an American

actor, puppeteer, artist, and filmmaker. He,

was the voice for Noid in the Domino's pizza

commercials. Oh, yeah. Love the Noid. At least

at one point. I don't know how long he did that,

but it's listed on his page. So that's an interesting

one. And her scanner is going to pick up the

microwave waves and destroy the microwave. No

more hot chicken for you guys. Good Lord. Tony

Carroll played Beastman. He did almost nothing

else. You know, it's funny. You get some of these

movies that want to cast unknowns or whatever,

and sometimes the unknown, like Christopher Reeve.

He was virtually unknown at the time. Obviously

graduated from Juilliard and everything else,

roomed with Robin Williams. And now, you know,

he's known to the rest of the world as Superman

for the rest of his life and afterlife now that

he's no longer been with us. But sometimes when

you're casting unknowns, you get people like

the person that played, you know, Karg or whatever

that didn't go on to do anything else. It's kind

of sad. Yeah, absolutely. Lubbock confiscates

the key, which is just going to bring him more

trouble. Yeah. Oh, Kevin. Why do you have to

be so stupid, Kevin? I mean... And that pink

car, come on. Jesus. That's when you know you're

confident in your manhood. Mm -hmm. Ah! Blow

the door off it. Get out of here! Jeez. Oh, Lord.

Yeah, we got another showdown here with the evil

warriors. And Beastman, yep. Going against Kevin.

He should just be dead at this point, really.

I mean, going up against a monster like that?

Yeah, he should just be dead. Yeah, we shouldn't

have seen him again. Yeah, that codpiece she's

wearing, she should not be wearing. I definitely

wanted to accentuate her chest. Oh, no, I'm not

talking about the upper. I noticed the lower

part more than I noticed the... I'm like, that

doesn't look right at all. Man, you just got

turned into a dog. The interrogation device here.

Put the color of truth around him. At least in

the 70s when Linda Carter did it, it was a lasso

and it looked better. Yeah. Tearing up the place,

looking for the key. Local couple dying, plane

crash, yep. Find the girl. So this is what's

going to give him the idea to do what they do

here in a little while. Mm -hmm. I do like Blade's

design. I like his eye thing. I like his whole

chin thing, whatever. Right. Some critical responses.

The Rotten Tomatoes consensus reads, Masters

of the Universe is a slapdash adaptation of the

He -Man mythos that can't overcome its cynical

lack of raison d 'etre. I don't know what that

means. No matter how admirably Franklin Jelliff

throws himself into the role of Skeletor. Variety

said it's a Conan Star Wars hybrid ripoff. That

is a colossal boar. Guy from the New York Times

said if you like the toy, you'll love the movie.

Okay, so it's funny you mentioned that. And they're

going off to find them. And since you brought

up the toys, actually in, was it, when was this?

That's the pre -order which sold out. In 2011?

Where was this article written? I can't even

tell. Basically, Masters of the Universe Classics,

they did the William Stout collection. I've got

a link here from Toy Arc that I'll put in the

post of this episode for the podcast. But they

show off images of the action figures from Masters

of the Universe Classics. They have He -Man,

Regular Skeletor, Karg, and God Skeletor. And

I'll probably even, I'll send you off air, uh,

pixel dance video with these and the action figures

look a hell of a lot better than what the, what

the, what the film does. The, um, the God Skeletor

figure, it's pretty much ripped right off the

screen. They all are, but it just looks so much

cooler. I remember wanting some of the, I wanted

the blade figure and a couple other figures,

but I never got my hands on them. Yeah, those

were from the original film. These are four figures

that were done in Masters Universe Classics somewhere

in the last five, six, seven years. I forget

when. And they're basically today's standard

of action figure, and it's just four of them.

Two Skeletors, a Karg, and a He -Man. One Skeletor

is regular Skeletor. One Skeletor is God Skeletor.

The other film that they had put out, I just

remembered it, the other film that this company

was putting out at the same time in Masters of

the Universe that they were hoping that would

be a success that was not was Superman The Quest

for Peace. I like that movie, actually. These

two contributed to the closure of Canon Films.

The sequel is going to be called Masters of the

Universe 2 Cyborg. Like I said, the script followed

He -Man, who returned to Earth to battle Skeletor,

who had left Earth as a post -apocalyptic wasteland.

The film was to feature Trapjaw and She -Ra,

but they had to recast somebody as He -Man, and

that was going to be Laird Hamilton. Oh, interesting.

So he was going to be playing He -Man in the

sequel. Look at Gwildor. Gwildor's an idiot.

Speaking of which, Billy Barty received a Golden

Raspberry Award nomination for worst supporting

actor for this film. He didn't win it. He's not

the worst out of this movie though. Another thing

that canon basically since they were going out

of business they couldn't pay Mattel's fees to

pull off the sequel. And yeah it says the only

aspect known about the sequel's screenplay was

that He -Man would have returned to Earth disguised

as a professional quarterback. That's just rings

of awfulness. I do like the idea that the Skeletor

created a wasteland or a post -apocalyptic area

out of Earth, kind of like he did with Eternia

at the beginning of this film. They don't do

too bad with the flying thing there, going through

the sky was not too bad of an effect. I like

that they blame the Russians on this. That is

such a strickland thing to do. And it's such

an 80s thing to do, too. Right, right. We have...

He -Man's showing up in the pink car, driving

it, apparently. He's learned how to drive in

the course of the movie. He's coming into Charlie's

store to get this cosmic key, but not before

Detective Lubbock has a word with him. Yeah,

I could not see Laird Hamilton as He -Man. The

only person I can see as He -Man, I'll stick

to it until my dying days, is Chris Hemsworth.

No! Perfect body for it. Maybe, but he's a horrible

actor for it. Oh, he's a good actor. No, Thor

is He -Man. No. Yeah, the only... Oh, and that

isn't even... Wow. And they've locked in on the

key. Yes, they've locked in on the key. Yay!

Gwildor is one of the golden girls here. Gwildor

and Drag. He's Blanche. He's Blanche. If I turn,

they keep throwing off. Because I have the subtitles

on. Chromons and things like that. What is that?

They got a tank just sitting out on the street.

This is awesome. Evil Lynn has accompanied them

this time. That's because hopefully she won't

fail. But she does. She just walks around very

regal. Yeah. Like she rules everything with Skeletor.

She looks like she could have played the White

Witch in the Chronicles of Narnia in that costume.

Hmm. Oh, Man -at -Arms has his visor down. Yep.

He -Man sporting a gun again. Yep. It's always

kind of jarring. Yeah, it is. It's like MacGyver

carrying a gun. It just doesn't happen. I mean,

if he made it out of toothpicks, it could happen.

He didn't believe in guns. He would throw one

in the garbage and have to make a device out

of a pen or something first. 20 Metrons. So we

got Metrons and Chromons. They're trying to find

a way to get through the sorceress's force field

when they do get back there. Yep. So now Gwildor

and Kevin are going to be talking about the universal

language of music. Mm -hmm. It's a little bit

weird. Lubbock's like, what the fuck are you

guys talking about? Yeah. This is a weird part

of the movie, honestly. Yeah, very. There's that

tuba in the background. Mm -hmm. Case was in

the other part of the store. So many drums. So

many drums. Mm -hmm. So many speakers, keyboards.

Like, what is going on? Right through the windows.

Mm. There he goes, shooting people again. That

doesn't matter. They're robots. You can kill

robots and nobody cares. Okay. Robots. Fine.

This is a, this is a, you know, what's the word?

There's gotta be a word like sexist. That's like

against robots. Like this is a robotism. Yeah.

This movie doesn't care about the feelings of

the robots. You can kill them left and right.

Basically what it sounded like. I thought I was

listening to the movie. Thought the volume would

come back on. I mean, overall, you really got

to take this movie for what it is. Oh, absolutely.

Champy. It's cheesy. You know, the effects are

of its time, although a few of the effects are

better than the time, but a lot of them are somewhat

dated by now, obviously. But I don't know. There's

something that's just fun about it. If you're

willing to suspend your disbelief on stuff. It's

just jarring, though, as a He -Man movie because

of all of the non -He -Man aspects. Exactly.

That's the thing. It's supposed to be a He -Man

movie that isn't a He -Man movie. That's the

biggest problem with it. And the funny thing

is, I don't mind Gwildor. I like Gwildor as a

character, as an orco replacement. I like He

-Man for what he is. I like Man -at -Arms. I'm

still not a fan of Teela in this, but... My favorite

things out of this are Skeletor, the Cosmic Key,

and Lubbock, honestly. Those are my top three

things from this movie. I think you can get away

with Gwildor. It's when you have Gwildor and

Blade and Karg and Sauron or whatever his name

is. Not Sauron, but Sauron and all these different

things. Then you have some of the characters

not looking alike. And then you have most of

it taking place on Earth. And then you have robot

armies. And then you have He -Man shooting people.

There's so many things that are disconnected

from the universe that we have learned about

in the previous X number of years that it was

just jarring to watch. I don't know. That would

be like a Transformers movie. And it had Optimus

Prime and Megatron. And then all the other characters

were new to that movie. He'd be like... And they

weren't even the same... I don't know. Maybe

Transformers isn't a good example, but... That's

one thing Michael Bay did get right, is he let

them do the character names and the bumblebees

and this and that. Haswell probably told him

that. And again, who knows what was told to these

filmmakers from Mattel at the time, other than

the fact that He -Man doesn't kill people or

whatever kind of thing, yet here he is with a

gun shooting at robots. Very true. If you're

going to do the whole Batman rule of this character

doesn't kill, you should not be giving him a

laser pistol. Sword fight, fine, whatever. He's

not going to kill a character with a sword. Basically,

in the cartoon, the way they do it is he throws

people or he punches somebody or something like

that. He knocks them out. It's funny because

they had this whole movie where they're like,

don't kill anybody. The cartoon did a better

job of showing that because he never had a gun.

He didn't even come close to doing something

like that. This is an interesting part that we're

kind of skipping past here, but Courtney Cox

sees a vision of her mom out there and for some

reason believes that that is possible. While

Lubbock and you fight over a gun. This is just

a bad... I understand that you have a loss. When

you lose a parent, I've been there. and like

yeah when i was 10 did i like picture like oh

you know he's you know my dad's just gonna be

back one day and it's gonna be like a dream or

something or whatever like you go through that

type of thing but she is a grown -ass adult at

this point or at least a high schooler like you

can't imagine that this is really your mom at

this point yeah like you know that she's dead

and this is a creepy point in the movie too like

oh this this gives me the chills this was some

awesome special effects though It gave me the

chills just now, just even seeing it again, even

though I already knew what was coming. She's

her mom now, but as we know, she's actually Eva

Lynn, which is one of the best things they did

in the movie as far as recapturing something

that would have happened in the cartoon. Because

that's something that we would have seen multiple

times in the cartoon where somebody posed as

somebody else, whether it was Skeletor, Eva Lynn,

or whoever. And as Lubbock and the two kids are

fighting here, I almost forgot Lubbock was a

cop in this. This music story got a lot of play.

Now Gwildor's got a gun. Gwildor has the gun

that was on the floor. He says they're acting

like twerkdoms. I don't know what that is. Julie's

coming back. My mom's here. She wants the thing

and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and she runs

out and gives it to the bad guy. Number one,

why would your mom be alive? Number two, why

would your mom want this thing? Yep. Like, it's

so bad. Dun, dun, dun. Like, this is hot rod

bad right here. I'm just kidding. Evil Lynn scares

the crap out of me. That was Courtney Cox's best

acting moment, I think. Yep. initial reaction

where she's just screaming. And Evelyn pulls

off without ever having to lift a finger, pulls

off the feet that they were trying to do. So

she comes across as a pretty competent bad guy.

Absolutely. Records 99 cents. You can get those

records for 99 cents. Seems expensive for 1987.

One of the price tags was $4 .99 and the rest

said 99 cents. Yeah. Here's more red laser, blue

laser. I think there was a green one in there

too. Yeah, there was earlier. Oh, red and green

laser. Great. Something was off in the coloring.

So much fire. Fire everywhere. It's laying waste.

It's a teenage wasteland. Oh, we're looking for

more guns. More guns. This movie had more guns

and the entirety than the whole series did in

130 episodes. Pretty much. Yeah. Cause I don't

even know if the series ever had a gun, did it?

I mean, man in arms had blasters and things and,

and, and, and some of the vehicles had guns on

them, but actual like revolvers and shotguns

and things like that. No. I mean, I guess it's

set in Earth, so what kind of weapons are going

to be in existence in Earth? Exactly, yeah. It's

just weird that so many characters are brandishing

them. I'm surprised he's still alive. That's

pure Strickland right there. Mm -hmm. Yep. Get

off my lawn. That's literally what I... Every

time somebody uses that phrase, like an old person

saying, get off my lawn, I think of his character.

And back to the future. Yep. You slackers! It's

an interesting version of a sky sled. Yeah. A

much bigger vehicle that we're using. Evelyn's

caressing the cosmic key, obviously having thoughts

of what she can do with its power, maybe. Mm

-hmm. He -Man's going out in the streets. Oop.

Someone's opening a door. Mm -hmm. Here comes

Skeletor. Dun, dun, dun. By the sorceress. That's

a phrase. And here comes the Skeletor on Earth.

Hell on Earth. I do like the army shot, though.

It makes it look okay. The fact that they've

been using almost every scene, though, is a little

bit off -putting. Well, true, but I mean... If

they would have waited until this scene and had

them all march in with Skeletor, that would have

been a lot better. And they got the hoverboards.

Yep. Maybe not the greatest effects, but it's

okay. At least it ain't pink. Skeletor looks

badass when he comes in here, though. He does.

So great. I like the things that they did at

the end of his gloves, like the fingertips. Yeah,

that is so cool. I made him look badass. This

vehicle looks somewhat badass. It's almost Darth

Vader -esque. Oh, yeah. What's all this? It looks

like Darth Vader's bathroom. I like the fact

that he's so elevated, like he's so high off

the ground. Oh, yeah. Makes it look cool. And

then he's got like gunners to the sides of him.

Offset. Everything to do with Skeletor in this

film is amazing. Evil in. Mm hmm. She's telling

her evilness. Yep. I have the key, my lord. He

wants to know about He -Man. He -Man says that

he eluded them. That obviously does not make

Skeletor happy. Air Centurions, find him. A year

later, there would be a cartoon called Centurions.

Or later that year, maybe even. I don't remember

if they started in 87 or not. Air Centurions.

This is a weird aspect visually though. Some

of this I remember looking a little cheesy even

back then. Oh yeah. It's all very cheesy. So

he shot that person. Was the Air Centurion a

robot too? Probably. I would hope so considering

He -Man's not supposed to kill anybody. Right?

This is like one of our climactic showdowns on

Earth here. Yes, yes it is. Centurion's cartoon

debuted in... Oh, I guess it was in 1986, so

it came beforehand. Came beforehand, yeah, so

this is a reference to it. That's what I figured.

I remember Centurion was... Centurion's was before

this. Now He -Man's gonna ride his own hoverboard.

There he goes. Jeez. So he's got the hoverboard,

he's got his gun, his sword's holstered. Mm -hmm.

Graphics aren't terrible right there. Nope. I

mean, for the time that this movie was made,

the graphics on it are really, really good, depending

on which scene you're in. I mean, there's good

moments, but I mean, there's some, it's like

a 50 -50. Like, some of them are some real good

moments that you're like, oh, this is beyond

its time. And then some of them are like, oof,

this looks like a weird computer animated video

game. Yep. Like, when they're at a distance on

those hoverboards, it looks really bad. When

they're close up, not as bad. Skeletor just slowly

making down Washington Avenue here. Whatever

street this is. He's trying to find somewhere

to stick his grapple. That's the wrong place.

His shoulder got shot off. There you go. Red

laser actually hit somebody. Wow. That must be

a first. Yeah, I know. You could probably record

that down in history, how many times that's been

successful. Mm -hmm. He -Man doing a loop -de

-loop. This is like the scene in Star Wars and

the Force of Endor. Mm -hmm. When they're trying

to... Yeah, there's a lot of copying from other...

A lot of homaging, copying, whatever you want

to call it, from other things. Yeah, this is

very Moons of Endor type scene here. First, I

didn't think that guy realized he was right behind

him. It's also funny because we have Gwildor

that's doing most of the work with the cosmic

key and the different devices where normally

Man -at -Arms would be that person. So it's kind

of interesting in that respect. Well, you got

to give a bearded orco something to do in this

movie besides eat chicken dressed in drag. Oh,

Skeletor just coming up like a creep right here.

That's such a good scene. Yeah, it is. Bye -bye.

That's like, so Emperor Palpatine. Oh yeah, very

much so. I know I'm making a lot of Star Wars

references, but that's what I'm thinking of as

I'm watching this now. Absolutely. Because that's

all you can think about. Like you think you have

them and he just can be like, Nope, I got a force

field bitches. Throw down your weapons. And your

other weapon. And your other weapon. Could have

been a comedy sketch right there. You minute

minion. That's what Skeletor called Gwildor.

That's great. I would never knowingly serve the

lord of Snake Mountain. They originally wanted

Snake Mountain in this, and they had the drawings

of it and everything and all the concept art

and the design, but then they weren't able to

do it for budgetary reasons. Unfortunately. Because

that would have been cool to see. I guess they

even had designs for Shira for the sequel and

different things like that. She would have been

in a little bit of a different getup, so I don't

know if I would have been for that. Like just

the way that he's able to emote without saying

anything and that much makeup and mask and things

like that. Oh yeah, absolutely. Emotions and

say so much without saying anything. It's really

good. He's clearly probably the best actor in

this film. Oh, easily. I mean, there was a few

others that did a lot of acting, but like, I

feel like he's, he's the star. Yeah. I mean,

he even takes it over. Lundgren. Especially at

the time, too. He was probably the biggest name

that was involved. Yep. Because Dolph Lundgren

hadn't done much at this point. I think Rocky

was about it. Yeah, Rocky IV, V, or whatever

Rocky he's in. So we have just about everybody

together now. Just about, yeah. Pretty much.

Except for, obviously, the sorceress who's back

being captured on Eternia. Yep. Skeletor laughing.

Mm -hmm. Oh, He -Man and Skeletor, one -on -one.

He wants He -Man to return to Eternia with him

as his slave. Mm -hmm. To save his friends, or

to perish with them on this stupid planet. Ultimatums.

Such a villain thing to do. Yep. Return to Eternia.

Be my slave. You'll sign a million autographs

every day until you die. All I can think of is

what Swackhammer wanted to do with Michael Jordan

in Space Jam. So He -Man throws his sword down,

gets put into shackles. Yep. Because let's face

it, that sword ain't no power sword. Frank Langella

just literally motions him off with a flick of

his hand. Yep. Away you fly, away shoe. Good

stuff. So that is our resolution, basically,

of what's happening here on Earth. Yeah, pretty

much on Earth. They then go back to Eternia here

in a few minutes. He -Man is my slave. Let them

rot. That's what he's saying about all the other

people. Then he slowly descends. Jesus. I'm going

to put my medical chair down now, thank you.

It was going that fast. It's like when you're

waiting for somebody's chair to go up an elevator

on one of those lifts. It's like the old lady

chair in Gremlins. Yeah, basically. Except it

never goes fast. Shoot her out the window or

whatever it does. Mm -hmm. So now they think

they're stuck and there's no way for them to

get back to Eternia because Skeletor and all

these people are going through that gate. Mm

-hmm. They're going to close it. They have the

Cosmic Key. So everybody else is going to be

stuck. So we're just watching them go through

that gate, disappear. Mm -hmm. And now we have

ourselves a little conundrum. Yep. Gwildor and

the humans. Quildor and the Humans. That sounds

like a TV spinoff. Could be. Like Mark and Mindy,

Quildor and the Humans. Yep. I know that probably

is a real shotgun, but the shotgun on Lovick's

arm there does not look... When he had it up

against his shoulder, it just looked like a completely

fake gun. Here, let me put that in some water.

Oh, that's some of the best makeup in the entire

movie besides Frank Langella. That makes you

hungry, doesn't it? No, it does not at all. Put

this wet towel over it. That way we soaked in

some dirty pool water. Exactly. Good thing I

ate dinner way before we recorded this commentary.

In her blood, only our sorceress can heal her

now. So now we have another. element that we

have to work around here. Mm -hmm. You just don't

get it. Yep. You should just date Teela instead.

I don't know about that, but okay. Or Gwildor

in drag. Yeah. The way Gwildor's cheeks hang

down over his beard always got me. I wonder if

that outfit still exists somewhere, like if it's

on display somewhere. Or if it was too much connected

to his face that they had to peel it off or something.

Hmm, not sure. Oh, they just need to play the

melody that the key played. They don't need the

cosmic key, they just need the music. Luckily,

Kevin's a music guy. Yeah, luckily. That was

great. That effect was terrible though. Yeah.

Or whatever. She shoots it and then it cuts to

a scene that doesn't have it in it anymore. Like

a blip. Like we didn't see that edit. This part

has been edited. Ha ha ha. You'll never know

what was actually here. How did you do that?

How do you do music from memory? You learn. It's

called memorization. This part is so cheesy.

It's supposed to be this epic device that exists

in... Oh, he's got to do something. Metron's

pole word. I don't know what that means. You

know, Eternia, you have these devices that are

magical and stuff like that. You're on Earth

and we just have to redo a tune and it does the

same thing. Kind of takes away some of the magic

and mystique behind it. Well, it had to be simplified

for the humans because they don't have the other

device. At this point, you can't hear it, obviously,

but this is when Kevin tries to play it that

he's not good enough to remember it 100 % right.

He's just a stupid keyboard person. There's a

million people like me out in the world. I'm

a nobody. Blah, blah, blah. So now they have

to pump up his self -esteem and confidence back

up. Yeah. Good lord. This is like the PSA in

the movie. Mm -hmm. Pretty much, yeah. Gwildar.

It's like a cross between Hobbit and Yoda and

the dude from Spaceballs and Orko. They just

said something about Tesseract. I don't even

see Orko in here. They had a Tesseract in here

before it was known. They had an Octodirectifier.

They got Chromoids. They got Metrons. Somebody's

just having fun making up words. You can see

down below where they have the skulls and the

different stuff compared to up here where they

have... if you see off to the side, you can't

see it in that scene, but they'll, they'll have

more of like, just like natural statues, like

that look like nice, but everything down below

is like skulls. Like right here, you can see

people like statues of people on the upper part,

which is the good power. And then down below

you can see all kinds of different skulls and

like more demonic type creations. Cause up top

is heaven down below is held. It's a very, it's

a very similar, uh, yeah. Aesthetic. The powers

of the universe will be vested in me and I make

you man and wife. No, I'm just kidding. He did

say the powers vested in me, though. Look at

Sorceress. Not looking good. No, she's almost

dead. She's looking like Skeletor a little bit.

It's my destiny. It is my right. This is one

of the better parts for Frank Langella when he

has some of these almost like monologues. not

quite because there's some other people that

interject lines here and there, but good stuff.

He writes one of the, one of these lines he came

up with on his own. It's not in the script. I

don't think he said it yet, but it'll come up

here. I think in a little bit. Oh, look, the

sword with no power. Yes. Sorceress, the sword

of gray skull. He held it up like it weighed

nothing. Because it probably does weigh nothing.

I don't know. Everything else weighs like 50

pounds as far as costumes go. So he puts the

sword in that holder next to his throne. That's

doing something, apparently. He was carrying

around kind of like a Havoc staff. Yeah, it is

kind of a Havoc staff. Pretty close. Close enough,

yeah. He's got a human shackled. Go ahead. I

was trying to look and see if it really did look

similar to what the actual Havoc staff looks

like. And it does a little bit, but not much.

He says a line there that when the powers of

Grayskull will become mine. When the great eye

opens, people of eternity shall see you kneeling

to me. Just before you die. Such a good standoff

between Skeletor and He -Man here. Mm -hmm. And

what can he do? This is like the part when you're

watching his movie where you're like, how does

he... This is the red laser whip. Mm -hmm. You're

like, how does he get out of this? He's shackled.

Sorcerers can't help. He's got Skeletor, Evelyn,

all the bad people. His friends are on Earth.

Only person that can save him is Lubbock. Lord

have mercy. Yeah, when President, or not President,

wow, when Principal Strickland is the only person

that can save you, you're in trouble. I'm sure

he was President Strickland in one timeline,

at least. All right. I thought they destroyed

that pink car. Apparently not. Kevin's back to

save the day. Remember that, folks. Mm -hmm.

Thank God you weren't him, because... That's

too cool to be him. All right. We got a keyboard,

which is basically a cosmic key. Pretty much,

yeah. Axel's over there crying and... Crying

and dying and... All from a leg burn. From a

venomous leg burn. That'll do it to you, man.

I'll have this ready in a pre -ton. Everything's

got to be a ton or a mon or cron. Chromon, pre

-ton. Young love. This thing probably was broken

in real life. This is probably why they were

saying that they were so hard to keep together.

Yeah, mostly. One of the broken ones. Yep. Oh,

that does look like it hurts. Yeah, it's bleeding

a little bit. Even Skeletor's flinching a little

bit. Mm -hmm. Enough. Where is your strength?

It's in the sword. The fake one. It's rubbing

it in that the sorceress is dying, I mean. Yep.

So much acting with his eyes. There's so much

acting with his eyes, but the lights and the

shadows in this scene on his face. Oh, so good.

Alpha and the Omega. It's always a good phrase.

Oh, I forgot we get super Skeletor eventually.

Yeah, God Skeletor, yep. I didn't like that.

I actually did. I thought it was cool. I just

thought he looked too gold. When that happens.

True. I'll see what I think about it this time

when I see it. At least Super Skeletor is...

Or God Skeletor is more Langella than Super Shredder

was just plain old Kevin Nash. Right. That's

a cool hologram that's projecting to all of Eternia,

apparently, or at least these six people. Yep.

I do like the hologram projections were supposedly

planet wide or whatever. Right. It's one way

to have a PA system. Now I, Skeletor, am master

of the universe. The wall behind him is opening.

Sorceress looking real bad. Beastman still looking

bad from like 300 scenes ago. Nobody has fixed

it. Yeah, Beastman looks bad, and then Card just

looks confused. Now these gold fairies are running

around. They enter Skeletor's head, and he's

glowing. The power fills me. He's on fire. Orange

lightning. We had red lightning earlier. Very

Emperor Palpatine -like now. We even got the

lightning bolt. Oh, yeah. Very much so, yeah.

Blue. They're orange instead. Mm -hmm. Unstoppable

power. My friend's like, uh... I gotta say, the

effects on him here are amazing. Yeah. I am more

than man. Especially He -Man. God. I am God.

Very bright. Yeah, he should have been called

Hook, not Karg. He's got a hook for a hand. Evelyn's

like the only one not flinching here. Yeah, because

she knows what's coming. There's actually some

moves that they end up not being able to do in

this fight scene because of how tall his helmet

is. Now he looks like a fucking Power Ranger.

He doesn't look that bad. I'm glad you at least

said that that would be bad. That was like some

type of getup that you would see somebody on

a Power Rangers TV show have. Well, some of those

suits are really cool. Some of them are very

bad. This one, I don't see it as bad. And again,

once I show you the toy version of God Skeletor,

I think you're going to come around to it. I

just thought he looked so epic as he was that

this made him look less epic to me. Absolutely.

I generally agree. I don't know, man. It just

looks... A little bit going to Eternia. Yep.

Got it in the picture. It looks like a... What

is that helmet? That helmet is bizarre. Who made

that? Who designed that? It's crazy. The Havoc

Staff is basically still the same, but he's got

antler horns, and then he's got something else

coming off the back. He's got a gem on the top.

He's got snakes going around it or something.

Well, it's to show that he's got... This all

this new power and they have to do something.

And again, this is 80 1987. Oh, hey, look, half

a pink Cadillac and half a wall. Yeah. Stuff

like that happens. You always wonder, like, why

is it only the people that get transported? Yeah.

It was like, well, we're going to transport everything.

Except the other half of the car. It wasn't within

the realm of the notes. And they needed something

to be able to hide behind to shoot. True. Oh,

He -Man's free, or at least part of him is. That

was dumb. Yep. Skeletor's freaking out. I have

to say, just a second ago, when He -Man did that

back kick... That kind of looked like a Filmation

move that Filmation He -Man would do. That was

the one time I really felt that Dolph looked

like... I feel like that laser went right through

Lubbock. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All of the lasers should

have hit Lubbock. Not that I want them to, but

the way they're firing, they all should hit him.

It looked like they edited it wrong, and it looked

like it actually did hit him and had no effect.

Nothing shot that guy. He just flew backwards.

Mm -hmm. He -Man's just throwing people left

and right. This is more like the type of fighting

He -Man should be doing versus shooting people.

Beastman's evil inner just dipping out. Oh, that

didn't feel good. We still have most of what

Skeletor is doing is doing from afar. Yeah, there's

no close -up. We do get a fight scene between

them coming up, though. Yep, we do. Kind of a

long, drawn -out final action sequence is what

we got here. Yeah, but I mean, I think it works.

There's a little too much action, but for what

it is... There you go. Yep. You said something

believable. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to lift the

whole thing with his bare hands. He meant doing

a Tarzan impersonation. Oh, here we go. Just

so we're aware. So everybody's straight on this.

When we have the actual battle sequence between

He -Man and Skeletor here, it is not going to

be Frank Langella. It is going to be Blade in

that costume. Hmm, interesting. Yeah, Frank Langella

did not do the action sequence, the one -on -one

fight. He did not do it. Yeah. So Blade, being

the fight choreographer and the stuntman and

everything, has a second fight with He -Man,

just in a different costume this time. That's

kind of cool, though. I think that's interesting.

Yeah. I've never watched it with that knowledge.

So I'm sure they make sure that every face shot

is Langella still, but right. Yeah. If you're

like that, probably was Langella. That was a

slow swing, but probably here, here it's here.

It's blade here. It's blade. Yeah. Most definitely.

Yeah. Cause you can't even see his face. No,

I just now noticed the mask is down. The whole,

the whole face is darkened. Everything. They

changed the lighting. So you can't tell. Yep.

But that's not Langella. I think that's cool,

though. I think that's interesting. I think that's

the perfect way to do it for this film. I think

it's cool that they got somebody that was already

in the film to do it, like another character

instead of just a random stunt person. Right,

yeah. That makes it kind of cool. And it does.

If they hadn't done this, it would be a fight

scene like what we saw with Darth Vader in Star

Wars, where it's very clear that there's... A

very old person. Not very old, but like an older

person that's not swinging the swords very well.

Yeah. Lightsabers in that case, but... Right.

See, that would have been the... I don't know.

I feel like we missed out on the moment where

He -Man holds up the sword and becomes He -Man

after Adam, like in a moment like this. Well,

I mean, he already did. He did it when he pulled

it out of the thing. That was the moment for

this movie. Yeah. Almost loses the thought again.

That was funny because in one shot, Skeletor's

hood was down. The next one was up and then it

was down again. There was some bad editing there.

He falls into the abyss. He falls into Cloud

City. Basically. Apparently they had the whole

movie done except for parts of this sequence.

And the production got shut down because the

company said that they had to be done. And it

took them like, it basically took the Goddard,

like, I don't know, two or three weeks or something.

I want to say, I don't quote me on the timeframe

to convince them to let them like reassemble,

to shoot the last few shots of the movie or something

like that. There's something to do with stuff

they had to come back later and do because they

had to wait to get reinstated. Wow. King Lubbock.

Gets a woman out of it. Looks like a much younger

woman. Oh, yeah. Sorceress also looks much younger

than she did a few minutes ago. Yeah, she does.

She doesn't look young, but she looks younger.

Yeah, I didn't like the fact that they played

her so old in this. But I guess it somewhat makes

sense. When you wish upon a globe. Oh, I just

want one thing. I want my parents back. Yeah,

an Eternia. No, nobody said that. Man -at -arms

without the helmet. Looking like a typical guy

from the 80s. Oh, yeah. He may have got his armor

polished for this shot. Yeah. Very gold, very

shiny. Why does Goldor have gold bands tied in

his hair? Because everybody's got gold on now.

They all took all the gold from Skeletor's outfit

and melted it down and made new stuff into it.

Activate the doorway. I would actually be interested

to know if that really was Dolph Lundgren with

the laser whip. Like the marks on his body, if

they actually did make up for that. for that

scene earlier. I'm assuming they did, but I'm

assuming they did too, but you, you know, scenes

like that. Oh, we'll just, you just don't double.

But every time I saw him writhing in pain or

whatever, I always saw his giant blonde wig and

not wake, but you know what I mean? Like, and

I'm like, Oh, I wonder if that really is him

or if that's just some other actor that looks

like him or has his muscles or whatever. Kind

of, I don't think so, but you know, it's weird.

an Eternian gesture, like waving, but it's their

version of it. Good journey. Send me back before

my mom and dad crashed. Blah, blah, blah. Don't

get me wrong. I lost a parent. You lost a parent.

Don't get me wrong. It's horrible, but I really

do hate that that's part of this movie, that

she gets to go back before her parents crashed.

That's not something that can happen. Don't plant

that seed that that's a possibility. And why

is she wearing, like, a nightgown like you'd

wear on Little House on the Prairie? I think

my mom actually had that nightgown. I'm not kidding.

She's supposed to be wearing, what, like an 18

-year -old? Yeah. Like, no 18 -year -olds walking

around in that thing. Yeah, no. Especially not

in the 80s. No. Oh, Lord. Yeah, this is cringeworthy.

Yeah. Oh, lordy, lordy. Yeah. Not a fan of that

part. No. Hey, look, the microwave's fixed. Jeez.

Don't die over there. Yeah, I know, right? Well,

it's just... This is the worst scene of the entire

film. Yeah, it's up there, that's for sure. Take

all the effects, take all the timeline, take

all the whatever. Oh, no, you're not going on

your trip. I'm taking your tickets. Bye. And

I'm going to walk out of the house in my nightgown.

Oh, I forgot about this when it came up in the

actual movie. So I'll share it now. But Mattel,

the toy company, did hold a contest where the

winner would get a role in the new He -Man series

or the He -Man movie. They were under a great

deal of pressure to finish the time under budget.

So director Gary Goddard had to squeeze the contest

winner into the shoot. The winner, Richard Smonder,

is Pig Boy, who hands Skeletor his staff when

he returns from Earth. Oh, interesting. I guess

that guy complained, too, because he said the

makeup and everything after it came off, his

face was burning in agony for weeks. Because

of all the Pig Boy makeup that they had to take

off his face. I have the power! And it's over.

They don't do the... Oh, they have a post -credit

scene. No, they don't. Yes, they do. Shut up.

No, they don't. Yes, they do. It was one of the

first movies that had a post -credit scene. Really?

I'm pretty sure. We're just going through the

credits here. It's just listing everybody. Carl,

the janitor. There's Pig Boy. Richard Sponder.

That's the guy who won the contest. He got to

be in his one movie, I'm assuming. I'm assuming

he was never... Let me click on his name here

on IMDb and see if he... Yeah, that was it. Well,

I guess he played himself on some type of documentary

in 2017 about Masters of the Universe. But that

was his only appearance. I never knew that because

I never watched this movie past the credits.

I did not. I honestly did not know. It says here

in Wikipedia in a post -credits scene, Teletor's

head emerges from the water at the bottom of

the pit saying, I'll be back. I honestly never

knew that. cliffhanger that said that there was

going to be a sequel that they decided to keep

in there, I guess. I don't know if it's in my

version or not. We're going to see here in a

minute. The credits aren't too long, but yeah.

One of those things where it's like, there's

going to be more than there never is. It's like,

I hate stuff like that that exists where there

was never a conclusion. Yeah, exactly. I mean,

say what you will about Transformers, the movie,

but at least, you know, you know let the cybertronian

war be over till all are one at least we had

an ending and obviously right kind of stuck out

at the end there but i mean whatever at least

it wasn't ending it was not right post credits

whatever like i said there was an alternate uh

introduction scene that featured snake mountain

in that scene tila was held captive in the dungeons

of snake mountain she escapes and helps several

imprisoned resistance fighters outside Scene

ended up never being filmed, but it was used

in novelizations and was mentioned in the official

movie and poster magazine. So there was a shot

of Snake Mountain at some point. So the sequel

was going to take place 10 years after this in

storyline. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah. And this film

is said to take place in Earth in 1986 and 1987.

No wonder they had a cheap chicken place in the

movie. Go ahead. I bet this movie would have

made more bank if KFC was the chicken place.

Yeah, the film got a PG rating in America, England,

Australia, and New Zealand, mostly due to He

-Man smashing and fighting Skeletor's troops.

And probably all the guns and whatnot, I would

assume. Yeah. Yeah, I do not have a... Post -credits

scene? Oh, no, I do. I do. Yep. I see the water.

Ooh, I see it. Oh, that's the first time I've

seen that ever. Yours is ahead of mine, so I

haven't seen that part yet, so let me wait until

I can see it on mine, because I'm sure our credit

versions are different. No, they're not. I just

fast -forwarded mine. I'm sorry. I'm like, I

want to get to this already, damn it. Good lord.

We're in the credits, folks, so if you're listening

to this still, thank you. Second of all, the

movie's kind of over. Yeah. That's definitely

true. I mean, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed watching

it through again this time. I still probably

will never watch it again after now. And the

funny thing is, folks, we were supposed to do

this podcast episode something like two and a

half, three years ago. Because originally, Back

when we were supposed to do this, Karen and I

were living in Gurney, Illinois, which is about

three hours away from you. You were supposed

to come to the house and we were supposed to

do this live and in person and actually get to

meet each other, but oh no. It didn't happen.

I can see the red water now. I can see the red

water and then Skeletor's head, which is very

clean. He says, I'll be back. It's creepy. It's

great. I love how clean his head was because

it was in the water. So, yeah, that's Masters

of the Universe. It's not a great movie from

any type of film standard, but for... And I think

fans of the franchise are split, probably. There's

some people that probably like it, and some people

probably think it's too far away from what they

were hoping for. But, I don't know. It's a cult

classic. I like it for what it is. right it's

it's okay there are moments at the end of the

movie in the final battle obviously you get the

he -man scene with him pulling the sword out

of the thing and having the i have the power

thing and then you have the thing at the end

with him in front of gray skull thing i like

the battle with skeletor even though it's a battle

with blade more you know but i like that i like

the design on god like I, as a kid and even 10

years ago when we did this for Movie Week in

Review, which again, as I said earlier, I will

link in the show notes on the podcast episode

post. I did not like God Skeletor back then.

And I did not like God Skeletor back as a kid

because I wanted the purple. I wanted the this.

I wanted the that. But now I kind of dig it.

I think it's kind of cool to show, you know,

what other color. then gold are you going to

take this character to? It shows he has more

power than what he already even had. So I dig

it. It's all right. It works. If I'm rating this

on the GCN universal rating system, it's somewhere

between a two and a half and a three for me,

somewhere between two and a half and three. I'm

not that hard on it, I guess. I give it a five.

What? No, I'm just kidding. I was, I was actually

on a 10 point scale. Come on now. I give it like

a, yeah, if it was out of five, I'm probably

giving it a two and a half, like maybe somewhere

in there. Um, it's, it's fine. It's what it lacks

from a technical standpoint. It wins me over

from just a fun nostalgia. champy standpoint

so like it's right in the middle it's not great

for any means but i don't think it's the worst

thing i've ever seen it's better than most video

game movies true so there's that and just for

those that may not know and the gcr universal

rating system is linked in almost every episode

post of all of our podcasts on the geekcast radio

network but just in case people don't know i've

actually been doing this when we've been rating

stuff lately 2 .5 below average The cons slightly

outweigh the pros. While the negatives aren't

overbearing, they are far too plentiful to make

it worthy of a recommend. There may be certain

redeeming qualities that are worth your time.

However, in the end, the product leaves you wanting

more. That could not be more descriptive. Yeah,

so my rating's a 2 .5, your rating's a 2 .5,

because 3 is average. I wouldn't recommend this

to someone to watch like this, unless they're

like in a crappy movie night and you're just

going to sit around and have fun and make fun

of it. Like that could be fun, but it's not something

that you can recommend like realistically to

people to watch. Yeah, no, not at all. Not at

all. All right. We are going to take a quick

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